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We are going to talk about 'cutting edge' PHP technologies and willing to see you around. edit: typo fixed

by yuxel 13y ago

adamnemecek 13y ago
Why is cutting edge in quotation marks? Are they not actually cutting edge?
- yuxel 13y ago
  quotation marks indicates that they are really 'cutting edge' since we are not going to talk about something like 'developing wordpress plugins' :) <flame/>
  - civilian 13y ago
    In American English quotations are often used to mark something as not-quite-the-truth. There's even a blog where we point out mis-used quotations: http://www.unnecessaryquotes.com/ http://www.unnecessaryquotes.com/ example: Today I "talked" to my brother. (But I actually just instant-messaged him.) edit: crap, I may have just misread your comment, did you mean </flame> to be like a </sarcasm> tag? Regardless, you were downvoted by others, so I thought I should help explain since you're foreign. You should also consider advertising the conference as: "php-ist Istanbul: Now with extra watercannon!"
    - iuguy 13y ago
      In British/International English air quotes are often used to emphasise something, and not necessarily as a sarcasm or BS indicator. Also what the hell do the protests in Gezi park have to do with PHP? Turkey's about more than just protests.
      - thejbf 13y ago
        > In British/International English air quotes are often used to emphasise something. It's not entirely true that quotation marks used to be used to indicate emphasis outside the US. It's a wrongly practiced habit to have double quotes instead of using italics for phrases that requires bolder emphasis, and usually leads to misunderstandings.
    - yuxel 13y ago
      lots of other communities are representing 'installing wordpress', 'most useful wordpress plugins', 'top 120 drupal themes' and we consider these communities are more like 'user groups' than 'developer groups' (especially in Turkey). And we want 'php-ist to be a developers group' . So there's a little sarcasm on quoting 'cutting edge'. But as I'm not a native English speaker I can change/update/remove this, if this lead to a misunderstanding.
Hopka 13y ago
'cutting edge' - with a double t - it's also misspelled on your homepage.
- yuxel 13y ago
  Fixed :) https://github.com/phpistorg/etkinlik-2013/commit/6d34883bbc914b2b1263ce827037185fc61835da https://github.com/phpistorg/etkinlik-2013/commit/6d34883bbc...
csomar 13y ago
Will the talk be in English or Turkish. I'm planning to visit Istanbul soon, hope the timing works for me.
- yuxel 13y ago
  Most presentations will be in Turkish. But we are talking with some speakers from abroad to attend our event. These "?"s on schedule are actually reserved for them. So, If they attend, I think 2 of our presentations will be in English (and most probably will be translated simultaneously into Turkish)

We are going to talk about 'cutting edge' PHP technologies and willing to see you around. edit: typo fixed

by yuxel 13y ago

We are going to talk about 'cutting edge' PHP technologies and willing to see you around. edit: typo fixed

adamnemecek 13y ago

Why is cutting edge in quotation marks? Are they not actually cutting edge?

yuxel 13y ago
quotation marks indicates that they are really 'cutting edge' since we are not going to talk about something like 'developing wordpress plugins' :) <flame/>
- civilian 13y ago
  In American English quotations are often used to mark something as not-quite-the-truth. There's even a blog where we point out mis-used quotations: http://www.unnecessaryquotes.com/ http://www.unnecessaryquotes.com/ example: Today I "talked" to my brother. (But I actually just instant-messaged him.) edit: crap, I may have just misread your comment, did you mean </flame> to be like a </sarcasm> tag? Regardless, you were downvoted by others, so I thought I should help explain since you're foreign. You should also consider advertising the conference as: "php-ist Istanbul: Now with extra watercannon!"
  - iuguy 13y ago
    In British/International English air quotes are often used to emphasise something, and not necessarily as a sarcasm or BS indicator. Also what the hell do the protests in Gezi park have to do with PHP? Turkey's about more than just protests.
    - thejbf 13y ago
      > In British/International English air quotes are often used to emphasise something. It's not entirely true that quotation marks used to be used to indicate emphasis outside the US. It's a wrongly practiced habit to have double quotes instead of using italics for phrases that requires bolder emphasis, and usually leads to misunderstandings.
  - yuxel 13y ago
    lots of other communities are representing 'installing wordpress', 'most useful wordpress plugins', 'top 120 drupal themes' and we consider these communities are more like 'user groups' than 'developer groups' (especially in Turkey). And we want 'php-ist to be a developers group' . So there's a little sarcasm on quoting 'cutting edge'. But as I'm not a native English speaker I can change/update/remove this, if this lead to a misunderstanding.

Hopka 13y ago

'cutting edge' - with a double t - it's also misspelled on your homepage.

yuxel 13y ago
Fixed :) https://github.com/phpistorg/etkinlik-2013/commit/6d34883bbc914b2b1263ce827037185fc61835da https://github.com/phpistorg/etkinlik-2013/commit/6d34883bbc...

csomar 13y ago

Will the talk be in English or Turkish. I'm planning to visit Istanbul soon, hope the timing works for me.

yuxel 13y ago
Most presentations will be in Turkish. But we are talking with some speakers from abroad to attend our event. These "?"s on schedule are actually reserved for them. So, If they attend, I think 2 of our presentations will be in English (and most probably will be translated simultaneously into Turkish)