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Here's what Glenn Greenwald said on June 8: "Our story was written from the start to say NSA claimed this, telecoms deny-we wanted them to have to work it out
by bstrand 13y ago
Here's what Glenn Greenwald said on June 8:
"Our story was written from the start to say NSA claimed this, telecoms deny-we wanted them to have to work it out in public what they do. We reported - accurately - what the NSA claims. We reported - accurately - what the companies claim. It conflicts. That's why we reported it."
- tptacek 13y agoIt looks to me like what he's saying now conflicts with what he actually wrote in his original report. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5845649 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5845649 edited to be less conclusive
- nullc 13y agoYou keep making these statements but they don't agree with your own links. "The National Security Agency has obtained direct access to the systems of Google, Facebook, Apple and other US internet giants, ___according to a top secret document obtained by the Guardian___." (Em mine) This is text from the message of yours which you are linking to here. It agrees with the quote bstrand provided.
- tptacek 13y agoWhen the FAA was first enacted, defenders of the statute argued that a significant check on abuse would be the NSA's inability to obtain electronic communications without the consent of the telecom and internet companies that control the data. But the Prism program renders that consent unnecessary, as it allows the agency to directly and unilaterally seize the communications off the companies' servers. Complete paragraph quote. Both claims in the last sentence --- that NSA has direct access, and can unilaterally sieze comms off servers --- now appear to be true, so much so that the Guardian itself is now walking them back.