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He is exaggerating about the "big Windows 8 and Windows RT user interface failure". As a Windows user since version 3.1, I can say that Windows 8 is IMHO the be

by greyman 13y ago

He is exaggerating about the "big Windows 8 and Windows RT user interface failure". As a Windows user since version 3.1, I can say that Windows 8 is IMHO the best Windows version overall; they just made an arguably wrong decision to remove Start button from the Desktop mode. That will now be fixed in 8.1. I also happen to like the monochrome icons in the newest Visual Studio (where there are a lot of other improvements as well, comparing to 2010). Microsoft should be criticized, but for something else - that they brought Win8 about 2 years too late.

vetinari 13y ago
The mistake was not removing Start button. The mistake was removing Start menu. And that is not being fixed. Button that throws you into Start screen is not a fix for the missing Start menu.
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valdiorn 13y ago
No, start button is just the very beginning. Whoever thought a full-screen calculator app was going to be a good idea was an idiot.
- kryten 13y ago
  This. Times a million. I actually knocked up an image of my calculator (HP 50g) against my TFT screen both scaled accordingly as an illustration of this shit crock: http://s16.postimg.org/qu05lh5r9/wtf.png http://s16.postimg.org/qu05lh5r9/wtf.png
  - to3m 13y ago
    Fortunately I've managed to somehow miss out on the Metro calculator app. It looks to suffer from the problems described here, only worse yet than existing calculator apps, on account of the size of all the Metro widgets compared to the size of the 21+" (non-touchable!) monitor sported by your average desktop PC: http://prog21.dadgum.com/107.html http://prog21.dadgum.com/107.html
- wluu 13y ago
  Really? I use Windows 8 daily and have never seen the full screen calculator. When I open the calculator, it opens in Desktop mode and presents the same calculator as what I used in Windows 7. Edit: Hrmmm... Looking at the screen shot in the other comment, can't you just dock the calculator to the side like other metro apps? A quick Google brought this example - http://blog.laptopmag.com/how-to-dock-and-undock-apps-in-windows-8 http://blog.laptopmag.com/how-to-dock-and-undock-apps-in-win...
6d0debc071 13y ago
They divided their interface into two halves, one of which is awful for productivity/multitasking, and built their adaptation of the start menu around that divide - while complete messing up its organisation and the search aspect. Metro could have been so good, the idea of a full screen start menu is good, the idea of larger tiles that update as an obvious replacement for the current set of icons is excellent. But they went and messed it up in such a way that I can't really imagine using it being an advantage over current use of 7 - "Oh you can use it like 7. If you work around Metro." Is the most common response I've got on its various user-interface screwups, but you can do that with 7 too so.... yeah. They even managed to mess up the explorer interface more than they already had.

by greyman 13y ago

vetinari 13y ago

The mistake was not removing Start button. The mistake was removing Start menu. And that is not being fixed. Button that throws you into Start screen is not a fix for the missing Start menu.

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valdiorn 13y ago

No, start button is just the very beginning. Whoever thought a full-screen calculator app was going to be a good idea was an idiot.

kryten 13y ago
This. Times a million. I actually knocked up an image of my calculator (HP 50g) against my TFT screen both scaled accordingly as an illustration of this shit crock: http://s16.postimg.org/qu05lh5r9/wtf.png http://s16.postimg.org/qu05lh5r9/wtf.png
- to3m 13y ago
  Fortunately I've managed to somehow miss out on the Metro calculator app. It looks to suffer from the problems described here, only worse yet than existing calculator apps, on account of the size of all the Metro widgets compared to the size of the 21+" (non-touchable!) monitor sported by your average desktop PC: http://prog21.dadgum.com/107.html http://prog21.dadgum.com/107.html
wluu 13y ago
Really? I use Windows 8 daily and have never seen the full screen calculator. When I open the calculator, it opens in Desktop mode and presents the same calculator as what I used in Windows 7. Edit: Hrmmm... Looking at the screen shot in the other comment, can't you just dock the calculator to the side like other metro apps? A quick Google brought this example - http://blog.laptopmag.com/how-to-dock-and-undock-apps-in-windows-8 http://blog.laptopmag.com/how-to-dock-and-undock-apps-in-win...

6d0debc071 13y ago

They divided their interface into two halves, one of which is awful for productivity/multitasking, and built their adaptation of the start menu around that divide - while complete messing up its organisation and the search aspect. Metro could have been so good, the idea of a full screen start menu is good, the idea of larger tiles that update as an obvious replacement for the current set of icons is excellent. But they went and messed it up in such a way that I can't really imagine using it being an advantage over current use of 7 - "Oh you can use it like 7. If you work around Metro." Is the most common response I've got on its various user-interface screwups, but you can do that with 7 too so.... yeah. They even managed to mess up the explorer interface more than they already had.