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NFC Stands For “Nobody Fucking Cares” And Apple Gets That

9 points by pshin45 13y ago

Esifer 13y ago
The author of this article doesn't get NFC.
- 2muchcoffeeman 13y ago
  I've been thinking about it for a long time. I still don't get it.
- JesseObrien 13y ago
  Quite blatant indeed. They obviously didn't do any research on things like http://tagsfordroid.com/ http://tagsfordroid.com/ which is a brilliant use of NFC that could not be duplicated on an iPhone.
shirro 13y ago
I pay for my coffee every day with NFC. The big 4 banking cartel here doesn't want an Apple or Google getting a foothold in the market and hurting their profits which is why NFC is a joke on mobile but on cards it does fine.
- jinushaun 13y ago
  Exactly. Why would Visa give away their market to Apple, Google, Verizon and AT&T?
- induscreep 13y ago
  Why do you need NFC when you stick a credit card tag onto the back of your phone? This solution doesn't need a battery to work, whereas using your phone to pay does.
jack-r-abbit 13y ago
What? I don't know how NFC works but I do know that I don't generally walk around with WiFi enabled on my phone so some WiFi based thing is not going to work for me. And while it seems the adverts for devices with NFC tend to show some sort of file sharing going on, there are other uses that don't involve an actual file share, just a need for authentication (building access, transit, making a payment). Sure a packet of data is a packet of data, but I don't think of it as "sharing" data with the door lock when I badge it.
japaget 13y ago
See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5871332 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5871332 for a rebuttal.
clschnei 13y ago
Now I know why techcrunch doesn't allow comments on their articles. People would rip them to shreds.
induscreep 13y ago
I really don't see why I need to bump phones (or come within a few cms) to share data, when I can share data with someone 6000 miles away using the internet/wireless. BTW, does anyone know what the bit rate of NFC is? Also, how about sharing data with MULTIPLE people at the same time? Does one need to bump phones with all of them? With wireless you can simply multicast to all of them and save a lot of time and battery. As for non-sharing applications, like tagsfordroid or similar, why not use wireless technology? Instead of tapping your phone against a table or something, just press a button on your phone. If WiFi is too energy-inefficient, then maybe something like ZigBee is a better solution. Maybe the ZigBee radio can be started on-demand when the user wants to use it. Wireless has a non-zero radio range as compared to NFC which makes it much more useful.
- rtpg 13y ago
  NFC is really fast, and a lot more convenient. wifi connections take a while. Plus, do you really want your "wallet" to have a non-zero radio range? Think about it.

9 points by pshin45 13y ago

Esifer 13y ago

The author of this article doesn't get NFC.

2muchcoffeeman 13y ago
I've been thinking about it for a long time. I still don't get it.
JesseObrien 13y ago
Quite blatant indeed. They obviously didn't do any research on things like http://tagsfordroid.com/ http://tagsfordroid.com/ which is a brilliant use of NFC that could not be duplicated on an iPhone.

shirro 13y ago

I pay for my coffee every day with NFC. The big 4 banking cartel here doesn't want an Apple or Google getting a foothold in the market and hurting their profits which is why NFC is a joke on mobile but on cards it does fine.

jinushaun 13y ago
Exactly. Why would Visa give away their market to Apple, Google, Verizon and AT&T?
induscreep 13y ago
Why do you need NFC when you stick a credit card tag onto the back of your phone? This solution doesn't need a battery to work, whereas using your phone to pay does.

jack-r-abbit 13y ago

What? I don't know how NFC works but I do know that I don't generally walk around with WiFi enabled on my phone so some WiFi based thing is not going to work for me. And while it seems the adverts for devices with NFC tend to show some sort of file sharing going on, there are other uses that don't involve an actual file share, just a need for authentication (building access, transit, making a payment). Sure a packet of data is a packet of data, but I don't think of it as "sharing" data with the door lock when I badge it.

japaget 13y ago

See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5871332 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5871332 for a rebuttal.

clschnei 13y ago

Now I know why techcrunch doesn't allow comments on their articles. People would rip them to shreds.

induscreep 13y ago

I really don't see why I need to bump phones (or come within a few cms) to share data, when I can share data with someone 6000 miles away using the internet/wireless. BTW, does anyone know what the bit rate of NFC is? Also, how about sharing data with MULTIPLE people at the same time? Does one need to bump phones with all of them? With wireless you can simply multicast to all of them and save a lot of time and battery. As for non-sharing applications, like tagsfordroid or similar, why not use wireless technology? Instead of tapping your phone against a table or something, just press a button on your phone. If WiFi is too energy-inefficient, then maybe something like ZigBee is a better solution. Maybe the ZigBee radio can be started on-demand when the user wants to use it. Wireless has a non-zero radio range as compared to NFC which makes it much more useful.

rtpg 13y ago
NFC is really fast, and a lot more convenient. wifi connections take a while. Plus, do you really want your "wallet" to have a non-zero radio range? Think about it.