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Thank you for explaining exactly what the parent's comment made me feel better than I could. If you read a bunch of different people's opinions, then you should

Thank you for explaining exactly what the parent's comment made me feel better than I could. If you read a bunch of different people's opinions, then you shouldn't be surprised that what you get is a bunch of different opinions. Furthermore, why is the parent so interested in this idea of "Apple Users" as a group, anyway? There isn't really any such group (or, to the extent that there is, it's a very small group).

rednukleus 13y ago
There was a significant group of vocal "Apple Users" who have spent a great deal of time over the last couple of years slagging off WP and Android for "bad design" and "stealing". It's to be expected that when Apple borrowed so heavily from WP and Android in this release that there are going to be strong reactions. It's perfectly normal for companies to be inspired by eachother and to incorporate the best elements of rival platforms (and Apple have done a good job in many respects, particularly the default apps), but Apple's litigation and the comments of the most vocal Apple supporters meant that they really have invited this backlash.
- ghshephard 13y ago
  I've seen nothing but acclaim for the advances made by WP to the design language used on Mobile Devices. Gruber, TheVerge, MG Siegler - some pro-apple pundits, all seemed to really like WP7/8. Can you point me to any prominent individual (pro apple or otherwise) who cast any dispersion on Windows Phone?
  - mortenjorck 13y ago
    I believe you meant aspersion? The only interesting criticism I've seen of Windows Phone's design language is that by eschewing most forms of visual affordance, it erases a lot of distinctions between actionable and non-actionable elements onscreen. I don't personally see this as a good or bad thing, though; it just requires a different set of conceptual tools to build affordance.
- rralian 13y ago
  Maybe I don't spend enough time in the forums, but I don't think I've ever seen anyone say anything bad about windows phone, other than the lack of apps, which really isn't the fault of the OS. I've seen pretty universal praise.
  - karlshea 13y ago
    Even Gruber at Daring Fireball has heaped praise on Windows Phone's design since it came out.
    - barista 13y ago
      Maybe that explains the similarities in Windows phone and ios7 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM8NSSzxNGM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM8NSSzxNGM
- sbuk 13y ago
  There's cognitive bias in action. It's been about equal from both sides.

rednukleus 13y ago

There was a significant group of vocal "Apple Users" who have spent a great deal of time over the last couple of years slagging off WP and Android for "bad design" and "stealing". It's to be expected that when Apple borrowed so heavily from WP and Android in this release that there are going to be strong reactions. It's perfectly normal for companies to be inspired by eachother and to incorporate the best elements of rival platforms (and Apple have done a good job in many respects, particularly the default apps), but Apple's litigation and the comments of the most vocal Apple supporters meant that they really have invited this backlash.

ghshephard 13y ago
I've seen nothing but acclaim for the advances made by WP to the design language used on Mobile Devices. Gruber, TheVerge, MG Siegler - some pro-apple pundits, all seemed to really like WP7/8. Can you point me to any prominent individual (pro apple or otherwise) who cast any dispersion on Windows Phone?
- mortenjorck 13y ago
  I believe you meant aspersion? The only interesting criticism I've seen of Windows Phone's design language is that by eschewing most forms of visual affordance, it erases a lot of distinctions between actionable and non-actionable elements onscreen. I don't personally see this as a good or bad thing, though; it just requires a different set of conceptual tools to build affordance.
rralian 13y ago
Maybe I don't spend enough time in the forums, but I don't think I've ever seen anyone say anything bad about windows phone, other than the lack of apps, which really isn't the fault of the OS. I've seen pretty universal praise.
- karlshea 13y ago
  Even Gruber at Daring Fireball has heaped praise on Windows Phone's design since it came out.
  - barista 13y ago
    Maybe that explains the similarities in Windows phone and ios7 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM8NSSzxNGM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM8NSSzxNGM
sbuk 13y ago
There's cognitive bias in action. It's been about equal from both sides.