You want the dog, but not the poop it is making, huh? "The opinion that art should have nothing to do with politics is itself a political attitude." -- George

You want the dog, but not the poop it is making, huh? "The opinion that art should have nothing to do with politics is itself a political attitude." -- George Orwell I'd argue something similar goes for HN. Especially since "Politics" basically means how people live together in cities, and here a lot of the architects of our virtual city hang out. Yes, surveillance and effectively autocracy is older than technology, but with how the marriage is going lately, it's very much our concern. It's not like any of this would be possible without engineers and mathematicians who made it so.