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Apologies for not closely following the thousands of different UX improvements / add-ons / tweaks available for Android. I wouldn't be surprised if it was in Cy

by nikster 13y ago

Apologies for not closely following the thousands of different UX improvements / add-ons / tweaks available for Android. I wouldn't be surprised if it was in Cydia as well. But that's not the point. The point is Samsung will copy it. Just wait, I am pretty confident here ;) I mean they could just buy that existing app but something tells me that they won't... past behavior and all that... Frankly I don't think Apple is taking any design clues from anywhere. They don't care what Android is doing - they do their own thing. And with iOS 7, they have revolutionized iOS. That's a fact.

kelnos 13y ago
Apologies for not closely following the thousands of different UX improvements / add-ons / tweaks available for Android. You should apologize, though clearly you're being sarcastic. If you're going to claim that Samsung is copying what Apple has done, you'd better know what Samsung, stock Android, and probably at least a couple other flavors, have already done. The point is Samsung will copy it. Copy what, exactly? The look and feel of iOS 7 (at least from a few initial screenshots; I haven't tried it myself yet) looks how Android has looked for over a year and a half now. Certainly the UX of iOS 7 is (presumably) still distinct from Android, but that doesn't seem to be what you're talking about. They don't care what Android is doing - they do their own thing. You clearly -- by your own admission -- aren't qualified to make this statement. Multitasking on iOS is a watered-down, shittier version of multitasking on Android. Notifications on iOS were basically ripped from Android. You may claim that Apple never saw what Android was doing and happened to come up with similar solutions, but that seems a bit naive to me. That's a fact. No, it's your opinion.
css771 13y ago
And I frankly don't think that Samsung is taking any design clues from anywhere. They don't care what Apple is doing - they do their own thing. And with the next Touchwiz, they will revolutionize Touchwiz UX. That's a fact /s But seriously, the amount of snark (and hypocrisy imo) in your comment was too much to take.
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- berntb 13y ago
  >>And I frankly don't think that Samsung is taking any design clues from anywhere. They don't care what Apple is doing Uhh... the whole idea with the present generation of smartphone (software) comes from the iPhone. That (and applying it to create pads people were willing to pay for) was new. Everyone should be able to agree on that, at least.
  - jhdevos 13y ago
    > Uhh... the whole idea with the present generation of smartphone (software) comes from the iPhone. Oh come on. It's an evolution of what was there before; Palm OS was already very clearly moving in that direction. There is very little that is conceptually new in the first iPhone. The execution was superb, and everyone certainly got shaken awake by the fact that that level of quality was even possible... but the core ideas were already there.
    - berntb 13y ago
      I leave the subject, since I assume you'd argue the same thing about the iPad, even though others had tried to build xPads for many years without anyone wanting the results... :-)
  - css771 13y ago
    Well no I don't agree with it, at least not in the way that you suggest.
dragos2 13y ago
You really don't get it. You cannot say Samsung will copy something from Apple, when Samsung already has that. It's OK to be a fanboy, but at least try to understand what's going on. Also, they might have revolutionized iOS but they didn't revolutionized mobile OS in general.

by nikster 13y ago

kelnos 13y ago

Apologies for not closely following the thousands of different UX improvements / add-ons / tweaks available for Android. You should apologize, though clearly you're being sarcastic. If you're going to claim that Samsung is copying what Apple has done, you'd better know what Samsung, stock Android, and probably at least a couple other flavors, have already done. The point is Samsung will copy it. Copy what, exactly? The look and feel of iOS 7 (at least from a few initial screenshots; I haven't tried it myself yet) looks how Android has looked for over a year and a half now. Certainly the UX of iOS 7 is (presumably) still distinct from Android, but that doesn't seem to be what you're talking about. They don't care what Android is doing - they do their own thing. You clearly -- by your own admission -- aren't qualified to make this statement. Multitasking on iOS is a watered-down, shittier version of multitasking on Android. Notifications on iOS were basically ripped from Android. You may claim that Apple never saw what Android was doing and happened to come up with similar solutions, but that seems a bit naive to me. That's a fact. No, it's your opinion.

css771 13y ago

And I frankly don't think that Samsung is taking any design clues from anywhere. They don't care what Apple is doing - they do their own thing. And with the next Touchwiz, they will revolutionize Touchwiz UX. That's a fact /s But seriously, the amount of snark (and hypocrisy imo) in your comment was too much to take.

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berntb 13y ago
>>And I frankly don't think that Samsung is taking any design clues from anywhere. They don't care what Apple is doing Uhh... the whole idea with the present generation of smartphone (software) comes from the iPhone. That (and applying it to create pads people were willing to pay for) was new. Everyone should be able to agree on that, at least.
- jhdevos 13y ago
  > Uhh... the whole idea with the present generation of smartphone (software) comes from the iPhone. Oh come on. It's an evolution of what was there before; Palm OS was already very clearly moving in that direction. There is very little that is conceptually new in the first iPhone. The execution was superb, and everyone certainly got shaken awake by the fact that that level of quality was even possible... but the core ideas were already there.
  - berntb 13y ago
    I leave the subject, since I assume you'd argue the same thing about the iPad, even though others had tried to build xPads for many years without anyone wanting the results... :-)
- css771 13y ago
  Well no I don't agree with it, at least not in the way that you suggest.

dragos2 13y ago

You really don't get it. You cannot say Samsung will copy something from Apple, when Samsung already has that. It's OK to be a fanboy, but at least try to understand what's going on. Also, they might have revolutionized iOS but they didn't revolutionized mobile OS in general.