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His analogy is not appropriate in this context. Security is a special case in which getting around it is a good way to learn about it. It's not the same as argu
by byrneseyeview 18y ago
His analogy is not appropriate in this context. Security is a special case in which getting around it is a good way to learn about it. It's not the same as arguing that wrecking a car means you're qualified to repair it -- it might be akin to a company hiring people who've been in accidents as a focus group for a new system that seizes control of your car and attempts to avert a collision.
Most of the appropriate analogies are related to crime (hire someone who picks locks to test whether or not your lock can be picked; hire someone who breaks into houses to test whether or not your house can be broken into). This is because crime is a special case, but you could also imagine a search engine hiring black-hat SEOs, a casino hiring card-counters, etc. If you want something to be exploitation-proof, you probably want to see what happens when experienced people try to exploit it.
It looks like people are seizing this as a PR ploy -- shame General Dynamics, and make sure people who Google "General Dynamics Hacker Ad" get to see you tut-tutting and defending virtue.
- biohacker42 18y agoDon't banks routinely hire safe crackers to help them make the safe more secure?
- byrneseyeview 18y agoI don't know. What I do know is that they'd probably get really great safe crackers if they paid on contingency:: "We're putting a million dollars in the safe. We'll sell 24 hours alone with this safe to the highest bidder." Also, this could be turned into the plot of a third-rate thriller, if the pricing model thing doesn't work out.
- wlievens 18y agoOr a reality show.
- tptacek 18y agoI don't know about the safes, but obviously banks do routinely hire companies like ours to help make their software more secure (by beating the hell out of it).