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But that assumes that the tiny startup is either confident that, only 3 short months from now, they'll be able to spring for the full price of hosted CI, OR the

by jtheory 13y ago

But that assumes that the tiny startup is either confident that, only 3 short months from now, they'll be able to spring for the full price of hosted CI, OR they can afford the time investment to set up their whole build process in hosted CI... and then spend the time to migrate away from it into a local setup before the 3 months is up. There's quite a bit more than the money involved when setting up SaaS infrastructure; even if the first 3 months were _sponsored_, the precious time invested would be wasted if they aren't signing up for the long haul. And if they are signing up for the long haul, then 3 months of X discount makes very little difference in the calculation.

pbiggar 13y ago
CircleCI costs $19 a month for a small startup (I know it says $49 value, but really small startups will be fine on a smaller plan). That's a lot cheaper than buying a server, just in raw costs, not even taking account developer time to set this up (much cheaper than setting it up locally on Jenkins). If your tiny startup isn't able to afford a couple of hundred dollars a month for various hosted services after 3 months, then you're prioritizing wrong. You need to focus on building a valuable product and getting it to customers, not on building your own internal setup to save a little bit of money. Companies doing the former are much more likely to succeed than those doing the latter.
- jtheory 13y ago
  It's not my startup under discussion, actually (I wasn't the first commenter above), but to be fair the first choice for a tiny startup might well be "stick with the shell scripts and dead-simple architecture for now" rather than any CI at all, hosted or not. Thanks for putting up the more relevant comparison price point, though, and I do agree with you that outsourcing non-core functions is essential to getting real work done on the actual product.
  - pbiggar 13y ago
    Sure, I meant in the general case. I hope the $19 price point is low enough to encourage folks not to do it with shell scripts :)

by jtheory 13y ago

pbiggar 13y ago

CircleCI costs $19 a month for a small startup (I know it says $49 value, but really small startups will be fine on a smaller plan). That's a lot cheaper than buying a server, just in raw costs, not even taking account developer time to set this up (much cheaper than setting it up locally on Jenkins). If your tiny startup isn't able to afford a couple of hundred dollars a month for various hosted services after 3 months, then you're prioritizing wrong. You need to focus on building a valuable product and getting it to customers, not on building your own internal setup to save a little bit of money. Companies doing the former are much more likely to succeed than those doing the latter.

jtheory 13y ago
It's not my startup under discussion, actually (I wasn't the first commenter above), but to be fair the first choice for a tiny startup might well be "stick with the shell scripts and dead-simple architecture for now" rather than any CI at all, hosted or not. Thanks for putting up the more relevant comparison price point, though, and I do agree with you that outsourcing non-core functions is essential to getting real work done on the actual product.
- pbiggar 13y ago
  Sure, I meant in the general case. I hope the $19 price point is low enough to encourage folks not to do it with shell scripts :)