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Yeah, when you've been here more than a year you can lecture me on "courteous discourse". Making a comparison equating a US spy/wire tapping program to a homic

Yeah, when you've been here more than a year you can lecture me on "courteous discourse". Making a comparison equating a US spy/wire tapping program to a homicidal antisemitic lunatic that played a major role in exterminating 9 million people is naive at best and idiotic at worst. Believing such a comparison is apt does in fact make you a fool, by definition, because what you are displaying is foolishness: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foolishness http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foolishness By all means though, continue to believe in nonsense. That's your right. Don't attempt to tell me I can't call a spade a spade however.

noarchy 13y ago
>Yeah, when you've been here more than a year you can lecture me on "courteous discourse". I've been around here for more than a year. More than a few years, actually. It looks like you're throwing a temper tantrum over these NSA-related posts on HN. Come back next week, I'm sure there will be something new over which you can complain. Meanwhile, there are plenty of us for whom this is a very important topic. No, government spying isn't new, whether in the US or elsewhere (I'm in Canada). But there is a place to talk about how we ought to handle this, as the targets of that spying.
- run4yourlives 13y ago
  I am throwing a bit of a tantrum, yes. I am pissed that the entire site has been taken over by a topic that is slightly more related to technology than an F-22 is. I don't come to HN to get into political circlejerks. Why? Because we aren't any better at discussing politics than anywhere else on the internet... full of unsubstantiated claims, ad-hominem behaviour, flame wars and nonsensical comparisons to Nazis. Sure it's an important issue. No it has no place here, beyond one or two threads where those that wish to discuss it can in all their glory. There are a lot of important issues on this planet, hell, hundreds of people died today because they couldn't get access to water or food - I'd say that's more important that someone reading your cell logs - but I don't think 30 stories about famine is the right thing to do here either. I gave it a couple of days, without complaint; such is this site. But it still seems that a vast majority of people can't really discuss anything but this issue like it somehow took over their lives two days ago. Seriously, get over it already. The signal to noise ratio of HN has degrated significantly over the last few days, and it really fucking sucks. /rant Aw, how cute, now I'm shadowbanned. So much for free speech.
nitrogen 13y ago
Regarding your later comment claiming to be banned, I think you might've just used a word or phrase that tripped an automatic filter for that one comment. Note that I don't have any inside knowledge of how HN's banning system actually works. Regarding this thread, it was probably time to let it die before it started. There's nothing to be accomplished by arguing over wording and metaphorical choices from five posts back.
DennisP 13y ago
The comment did not say that the spying is as morally bad as the Holocaust. It compared to specific propaganda tactic advocated by Goebbels to propaganda tactics in use today.

noarchy 13y ago

>Yeah, when you've been here more than a year you can lecture me on "courteous discourse". I've been around here for more than a year. More than a few years, actually. It looks like you're throwing a temper tantrum over these NSA-related posts on HN. Come back next week, I'm sure there will be something new over which you can complain. Meanwhile, there are plenty of us for whom this is a very important topic. No, government spying isn't new, whether in the US or elsewhere (I'm in Canada). But there is a place to talk about how we ought to handle this, as the targets of that spying.

run4yourlives 13y ago
I am throwing a bit of a tantrum, yes. I am pissed that the entire site has been taken over by a topic that is slightly more related to technology than an F-22 is. I don't come to HN to get into political circlejerks. Why? Because we aren't any better at discussing politics than anywhere else on the internet... full of unsubstantiated claims, ad-hominem behaviour, flame wars and nonsensical comparisons to Nazis. Sure it's an important issue. No it has no place here, beyond one or two threads where those that wish to discuss it can in all their glory. There are a lot of important issues on this planet, hell, hundreds of people died today because they couldn't get access to water or food - I'd say that's more important that someone reading your cell logs - but I don't think 30 stories about famine is the right thing to do here either. I gave it a couple of days, without complaint; such is this site. But it still seems that a vast majority of people can't really discuss anything but this issue like it somehow took over their lives two days ago. Seriously, get over it already. The signal to noise ratio of HN has degrated significantly over the last few days, and it really fucking sucks. /rant Aw, how cute, now I'm shadowbanned. So much for free speech.

nitrogen 13y ago

Regarding your later comment claiming to be banned, I think you might've just used a word or phrase that tripped an automatic filter for that one comment. Note that I don't have any inside knowledge of how HN's banning system actually works. Regarding this thread, it was probably time to let it die before it started. There's nothing to be accomplished by arguing over wording and metaphorical choices from five posts back.

DennisP 13y ago

The comment did not say that the spying is as morally bad as the Holocaust. It compared to specific propaganda tactic advocated by Goebbels to propaganda tactics in use today.