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Show HN: We built a realtime design feedback tool using Node.js
- framebench 13y agoComments welcome!
- wittyphrasehere 13y agoLooks great, just as long as there's a verification process to ensure that only designers are giving design feedback. You wouldn't want your MBA boss looking over your code and suggesting you "break that method out into a new class," why would you want someone who's not a designer telling you to "make the logo bigger." Joking, but seriously.
- roh26it 13y agoHaha, yes! This is actually supposed to be a private feedback tool so only the people you invite give you feedback. Just opened up this workspace for public. Thanks for liking it!
- michaelbuddy 13y agodesigners need feedback from non-designers. a designers title doesnt suddenly give them encompassing knowledge over a business and how to treat every part of a project.
- wittyphrasehere 13y agoThe designer should have received all relevant context prior to starting the task. There will be exceptions, where a piece of context is missed, and in these cases where feedback is necessary the format of the feedback is important. Rather than, "do it this way because businessReasons." Instead, try, "We must not have properly conveyed this aspect of our business, here is the relevant context. Knowing this, how do we solve this design problem?" If the designer is incapable of translating business requirements into design solutions then perhaps they're not a product/ux designer, maybe just a visual/graphic designer.
- roh26it 13y agoOften times, designers have to get feedback from the business guys because we do have a tendency to go with the flow. Especially if its not a full time job.
- wittyphrasehere 13y agoAbsolutely, feedback is just more input for finding the right solution, and is valuable from any source.
- michaelbuddy 13y agoExcept you said earlier "just as long as there's a verification process to ensure that only designers are giving design feedback" You can't have it both ways.
- michaelbuddy 13y ago"there will be exceptions" Yes like every project that gets designed. Start thinking real world. Feedback comes from everywhere. A website for example can represent every aspect of a company and stakeholders who will view the early phases, either for suggestions or out of team respect will provide feedback. Doesn't mean a designer responds, but sometimes they have to suck it up and change it, even when they don't think it's better. And stop talking like just because UX is in front of a title gives somebody special power. It doesn't. Work with a few of them and you'll realize it.
- danmaz74 13y agoIsn't this very similar to mural.ly?
- roh26it 13y agoIsn't mural.ly a whiteboard where you can collect stuff and yes collaborate? Framebench is probably more for online reviews and feedback. Did you notice the voice call feature?
- danmaz74 13y agoYes the starting idea is not the same, but in the end it looks you could use mural.ly to a very similar effect, that's why I was asking :) Anyway, good job and good luck!
- roh26it 13y agoThats true, in fact I love their sense of UI design. Thanks a lot for pointing it out. Thanks again!
- notjustanymike 13y agoI like it - does it have keyboard shortcuts? It's a pain to draw a circle, then click comment, then place the comment. I'd like to (d)raw then (c)omment.
- notjustanymike 13y agoALSO OW MY EARS
- roh26it 13y agoYes. Noted. :)
- roh26it 13y agoIt does have keyboard shortcuts. B is for brush, T for comment. Try it out.. We should put up tooltips for these. Thanks!
- notjustanymike 13y agoAh yes, excellent. It wasn't obvious to me I had to roll over to get the shortcuts.
- michaelbuddy 13y agoNot stoked on pricing on any of these. not gonna pay that If one pays say $15 / month for flexible hosting products, these kinds of services are comparatively overpriced. Does the realtime feedback matter? My experience is its better to wait for your stakeholders to complete their round of feedback to weed out redundancy. Realtime is just a distraction There is a stand-out feature which is video, not all these services have that. Cant wait for the self-hosted version of these to be created for a onetime price. makes way more sense to me.
- roh26it 13y agoWe kept pricing irrespective of the number of users just due to that. Would love to hear your thoughts at rohit AT framebench DOT com though. Thanks for checking out Video! We even have superior PDF support in comparison to all others. Zoom in. ;) We want to maintain it for sometime till its stable enough to be available as a self hosted solution. Btw, how much would you pay for a self hosted version?
- michaelbuddy 13y agoIf it worked the way I wanted, I'd probably pay $70 for a self-hosted solution. If it were absolutely what I needed with upgrades included for 2-3 years, maybe I'd pay up to $150. And if certain feature updates were intriguing enough I might pay another amount to get 2.0 version and so forth. I use pancakeapp, I love it. I bought it and then bought the upgrade a year later. The price is fair, the software is great, very useful.
- oneye 13y agoIf you think that $19 / month is over-priced, you are not in anybody's market. If you think that the service is not as good as your current solutions, that is a different critique and discussion altogether. I would actually advise to get rid of the $19/month option, because as all of the successful SaaS operators say it will result in the unhappiest customers and the lowest profit margin.
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- farolino 13y agoSomeone has taken it down. They managed to use an xss attack to inject a couple of alerts and then said they would try something else. Now you just get a JS 'hi' alert and it closes.
- badshah 13y agoThis is totally awesome :) Realtime collaboration is the future ! I Love it
- mp99e99 13y agoThis is pretty cool, I think its going to be a hit. Great job!
- roh26it 13y agoWoah, thanks a lot! Would really appreciate if you tell your friends about it. Thanks again!
- stickydink 13y ago"whats up, my god, this image has been, screwed up, faggots" Is all I see posted in the chat on your live demo[1]. You might want to have a little more control over this, seems like you've been infected with a few teenagers/morons already. [1] http://i.imgur.com/uunBhwX.png http://i.imgur.com/uunBhwX.png
- roh26it 13y agoHey, sorry about this. we figure that while we could do something about an XSS attack, this is something we'd leave. We did clean a lot of comments and chat messages which were extreme. Framebench is meant to be private, so while this may happen in a demo, it certainly won't when within an organization. Thanks for pointing it out though! :)
- akhushraj 13y agoAwesome tool, used it for collaborating on my last website project. Thumbs up for the founders!
- roh26it 13y agoThanks a ton! :)
- oneye 13y agoBump your prices up. Imagine if some senior design guy in some digital agency making 8 figures in profit per year wants to use it. Do you think that he wouldn't get approval for, say, $500 / month if he thought it would help him work with the designers he manages or the stakeholders he reports to? Capping out at $99 / month is leaving a ton of potential money on the table, IMO.
- roh26it 13y agoThanks a lot for this oneye! You're right we've had people sign up for our enterprise plans more than we'd expected. But we felt that this is the rift price point today because we want to make this available to every creator whos collaborating. We go after the high net worth users with our enterprise plans that offer a higher degree of customization and integration.
- michaelbuddy 13y ago500 a month. Yeah right. you know how companies and freelancers make that kind of profit? They control their expenses.
- ebiester 13y agoCool, but the question for me is what advantage this has over screen sharing. Perhaps this is meeting a need that I don't know, though.
- roh26it 13y agoWhat after the screen sharing session? Framebench makes sure that all your comments, files etc stay here. Also allows for asynchronous feedback so you could check the comments left at your convenience. This is why we say Framebench has the good parts of email and screensharing. And we have a fully functional asset management with versioning system built in.. Btw, did I mention...much lower bandwidth costs. :)
- julienmarie 13y agoReally cool product. If I may suggest, as your target audience is mainly designers, you should I think polish the design of the app. The tool is about refining design, but the app design could benefit from some love ( fonts alignment, shadows, color palette,.. ). There is some room for improvements, and by itself it's a great news ( btw, i'd gladly help ;) )
- roh26it 13y agoWe should do that! Can I get your email address? I'm ar rohit AT framebench DOT com
- julienmarie 13y agoYou can contact me at this address : jm at producture dot com