While he makes the point that Java was 4 separate things that should've been developed and released separately, that probably would have seriously hindered adop

While he makes the point that Java was 4 separate things that should've been developed and released separately, that probably would have seriously hindered adoption and even caused the language to die. [In hindsight, maybe that would have been best. >:)] When I first started with Java years ago, one of the things that made it appealing to learn a new language was the fact that it came with a box of toys (such as easily-constructed graphics contexts, UI elements, and threads). In the days of Java 1.0, it was probably the quickest way to get fairly sophisticated things up and running, so that power made it all worth learning. Had it just been some research language with no libraries or JVM, I probably would've said "great, but...what can I do with it, nothing!". In my case, this still came full circle; I eventually decided I really hated Java for any serious programming. I never choose to use Java for anything these days, I only put up with it if I'm maintaining something that is already Java-based.