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The media, of often as it can, likes to make criminals out of information activists. Maybe they desrve it, maybe they don't; Not even arguing that. The thing is

The media, of often as it can, likes to make criminals out of information activists. Maybe they desrve it, maybe they don't; Not even arguing that. The thing is, this guy isn't a clear cut "criminal" like Assange or the Pirate Bay guys, this dude notified his fellow citizens that our government was/is doing some highly illegal and immoral shit. Interested to see how this plays out.

untog 13y ago
Who in the media is trying to make a criminal out of him?
jafaku 13y ago
Assange is a criminal? Just wait and see how Snowden starts raping people and breaking ancient chinese sex customs.
olympus 13y ago
Except there is a difference between the law and morality. In this case, Snowden clearly broke the law, and is a criminal regardless of his moral motivations. This PRISM program, while obviously an overreach of the government, has yet to be determined as illegal by the courts.
- auctiontheory 13y ago
  If you're going to be a stickler for detail, it's not "clear" he broke the law just because you say so - not until he is convicted in court.
  - olympus 13y ago
    I'm not being too much of a stickler. He did admit to it on video. Yes, he could have been forced to say that, but it looks an awful lot like he willingly broke the law. If he had come out on video claiming that he didn't do it that's a whole different situation.
- grey-area 13y ago
  has yet to be determined as illegal by the courts. We don't yet know whether your statement is true because the courts which might rule on it are secret, and their decisions are not available to the public. This is what has to change - you can't have a real discussion of these programs because the government deems them too secret to discuss or disclose, even for senators or judges: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/06/government-says-secret-court-opinion-law-underlying-prism-program-needs-stay https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/06/government-says-secret...

untog 13y ago

Who in the media is trying to make a criminal out of him?

jafaku 13y ago

Assange is a criminal? Just wait and see how Snowden starts raping people and breaking ancient chinese sex customs.

olympus 13y ago

Except there is a difference between the law and morality. In this case, Snowden clearly broke the law, and is a criminal regardless of his moral motivations. This PRISM program, while obviously an overreach of the government, has yet to be determined as illegal by the courts.

auctiontheory 13y ago
If you're going to be a stickler for detail, it's not "clear" he broke the law just because you say so - not until he is convicted in court.
- olympus 13y ago
  I'm not being too much of a stickler. He did admit to it on video. Yes, he could have been forced to say that, but it looks an awful lot like he willingly broke the law. If he had come out on video claiming that he didn't do it that's a whole different situation.
grey-area 13y ago
has yet to be determined as illegal by the courts. We don't yet know whether your statement is true because the courts which might rule on it are secret, and their decisions are not available to the public. This is what has to change - you can't have a real discussion of these programs because the government deems them too secret to discuss or disclose, even for senators or judges: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/06/government-says-secret-court-opinion-law-underlying-prism-program-needs-stay https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/06/government-says-secret...