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As a Canadian who is seriously concerned about this political issue in your country which affects me, I have to ask, why are you bringing character into this? A

As a Canadian who is seriously concerned about this political issue in your country which affects me, I have to ask, why are you bringing character into this? And also, why does his character matter if the intentions are good?

joelrunyon 13y ago
I'm assuming he's referring to his motive rather than character as (from what I've read), the person in question likes to chase issues the public is currently outraged about. If he's able to follow this through, it really doesn't matter WHO is bringing the suit to light, but if his motive is weak then I would assume that he may not be as committed to follow-through on this as someone who is doing it from a principled standpoint.
- HannibalLecter 13y ago
  This won't be the first lawsuit. Countries may sue the USA for this action, starting with Germany, which could class-action into trillions.
- flyinRyan 13y ago
  >the person in question likes to chase issues the public is currently outraged about. Sounds like a good strategy. What good is it to invest resources chasing an issue that you can't make anyone care about?
  - 3pt14159 13y ago
    It's more a question of whether or not he can actually make a difference. Good lawyers don't take bad cases. Bad lawyers take cases that are unwinnable and make money from the gullible.
SCAQTony 13y ago
I agree. I am hearing and seeing that too in regards to all the "actors in this play" Mr. Snowden is getting slammed for only having a GED and for once working as a security guard and now this former prosecutor is getting slammed for his possible missteps. It's as if it is strategic trolling.
- gtirloni 13y ago
  It also impressive that people feel the government and major corporations need their help in defending against any of this (as if the events don't already show they don't care about the public in general). Humans are funny.
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ubernostrum 13y ago
His character matters because if you care about this issue, you don't want the public face of opposition to it to be a buffoon. Which is what Klayman is. The guy's been in on everything from Swift Boating to birthering, and that is absolutely not what you want people to see when they look up who's leading the charge against PRISM.
- nutate 13y ago
  In many ways the most illegal thing you can do with prism is blackmail, right? But with swift boating and birther stuff it's easy to see that it takes a lot less effort to just lie. Actual prosecution of citizens under such a wiretap for domestic crimes would be illegal even under FISAAA but as far as I know that hasn't been tested in court.
tptacek 13y ago
I'm not bringing "character" into this so much as I am pointing out that Larry Klayman suing something for billions of dollars isn't newsworthy.

joelrunyon 13y ago

I'm assuming he's referring to his motive rather than character as (from what I've read), the person in question likes to chase issues the public is currently outraged about. If he's able to follow this through, it really doesn't matter WHO is bringing the suit to light, but if his motive is weak then I would assume that he may not be as committed to follow-through on this as someone who is doing it from a principled standpoint.

HannibalLecter 13y ago
This won't be the first lawsuit. Countries may sue the USA for this action, starting with Germany, which could class-action into trillions.
flyinRyan 13y ago
>the person in question likes to chase issues the public is currently outraged about. Sounds like a good strategy. What good is it to invest resources chasing an issue that you can't make anyone care about?
- 3pt14159 13y ago
  It's more a question of whether or not he can actually make a difference. Good lawyers don't take bad cases. Bad lawyers take cases that are unwinnable and make money from the gullible.

SCAQTony 13y ago

I agree. I am hearing and seeing that too in regards to all the "actors in this play" Mr. Snowden is getting slammed for only having a GED and for once working as a security guard and now this former prosecutor is getting slammed for his possible missteps. It's as if it is strategic trolling.

gtirloni 13y ago
It also impressive that people feel the government and major corporations need their help in defending against any of this (as if the events don't already show they don't care about the public in general). Humans are funny.
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ubernostrum 13y ago

His character matters because if you care about this issue, you don't want the public face of opposition to it to be a buffoon. Which is what Klayman is. The guy's been in on everything from Swift Boating to birthering, and that is absolutely not what you want people to see when they look up who's leading the charge against PRISM.

nutate 13y ago
In many ways the most illegal thing you can do with prism is blackmail, right? But with swift boating and birther stuff it's easy to see that it takes a lot less effort to just lie. Actual prosecution of citizens under such a wiretap for domestic crimes would be illegal even under FISAAA but as far as I know that hasn't been tested in court.

tptacek 13y ago

I'm not bringing "character" into this so much as I am pointing out that Larry Klayman suing something for billions of dollars isn't newsworthy.