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> I think I would vote for allowing call logs to be trackable by the NSA Why? Someone looking to do harm doesn't use phones (maybe Burners) or other communicat
by brymaster 13y ago
> I think I would vote for allowing call logs to be trackable by the NSA
Why? Someone looking to do harm doesn't use phones (maybe Burners) or other communication methods where they know they'd be easily tracked.
- tptacek 13y agoWhy do you think people looking to do harm don't use phones? Why do you assume the use of burners makes telephonic surveillance pointless? Are you attributing to adversaries the best possible set of circumstances and smallest possible set of constraints?
- brymaster 13y agoI think the argument I wanted to make was that the people NSA claim to be after aren't using your typical contractual phone plans, since OP was suggesting they should simply track call logs. Sure they used pre-paid phones as well as pay phones, hotmail and were still using coded and hidden messages. Today they'd be using that steganography over cryptography. Few sources: http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-205_162-4985597.html http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-205_162-4985597.html http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/11/al_qaeda_secret.html http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/11/al_qaeda_secre...
- tptacek 13y agoThe fact that these people might use disposable phones is actually one of the reasons USG supporters give in favor of hoovering all the telephony "metadata".