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46 points in fifteen minutes and not a single comment? This NSA issue is seeming less and less like a discussion topic and more like a echo chamber, despite th
by jmduke 13y ago
46 points in fifteen minutes and not a single comment? This NSA issue is seeming less and less like a discussion topic and more like a echo chamber, despite the rampant lack of information on all sides of the event.
- godgod 13y agoI am not afraid. I am awake.
- tokenizer 13y agoThere are three crowds on hn/reddit: Those who vote, those who comment, and those who actually read the article!
- jpdoctor 13y agoMake that four crowds: Those who are waiting for the comment pages to come back to life.
- kyzyl 13y ago... and those who use the comments to proxy article quality before reading. Five. There are five crowds of people on reddit/HN. The commenters, the voters, the readers, the waiters, and the lazy. And also the submitters. Six. There six crowds of people on reddit/HN! And... ;-)
- michaelwww 13y agoMake that seven. You're forgetting the NSA ;-)
- Taylorious 13y agoThis whole story has had a baffling effect on HN. For the last few days 4/5ths of everything on the frontpage has been related to the NSA. I'm not saying that its not an important issue, but Christ do we need to have every bloggers opinion upvoted to the top? Even Apple was only able to make the top of front page for a short time. This is HN and Apple's latest news is not the top story. It's like I'm on a completely different site.
- md224 13y agoDevil's Advocate: are we really upset that an unfolding scandal involving the right to privacy is displacing content about a shiny new product launch? It's kind of interesting to witness the interaction between HN's overlapping circles of technologists, civil libertarians, and entrepreneurs. To be fair, I agree that we need to avoid letting this discussion devolve into a frenzied mob of speculation. Misinformation can almost be worse than ignorance.
- Taylorious 13y agoI'm not saying its terrible that HN is in an uproar over this, its just that I haven't seen HN this dominated by one topic since Steve Jobs died. There does seem to be a major lack of information on the issue though and unfortunately this topic always brings out some of the more "eccentric" members of the tech industry. I'm sick of seeing hyperbole comments like "we need a revolution", "we are in a police state", "America is done for time to move", etc. If all of our worst fears turn out to be true then it should be a call to action not a call to abandon ship.
- hkmurakami 13y agoThe entire frontpage was Aaron Swartz links when he died earlier this year.
- Taylorious 13y agoAhhh that's the event I couldn't think of. Yes the Aaron Swartz totally took over HN for a while.
- baconner 13y agoYou're not wrong that it doesn't feel the same his week, but is that a bad thing? Seems to me that even from a technology business perspective this is vastly more important than any iOS revelation could possibly be as fun as it might be to read about. I find the constant NSA discussion depressing and exhausting but not baffling. Its very relevant to hn IMO.
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- larrys 13y ago"46 points in fifteen minutes and not a single comment?" Keep in mind also that when someone submit the same URL as already submitted it increases the count. So someone reading that article and not checking that it's already been posted counts toward that 46. I'm only mentioning because I've done this and I've had stories upvoted to, say, 10 that never were commented on.
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- jlgreco 13y agoThe fact that only 1/10 of my requests to HN are going through is surely not helping...
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- SCAQTony 13y agoI read the first page of the lawsuit, determined it looked liked a valid filing and when I Googled Larry Elliot I learned that he is known as the founder and the former chairman of Judicial Watch, a public interest and non-profit law firm, Klayman was a prosecutor in the United States Justice Department and was on the trial team that succeeded in breaking up the telephone monopoly of AT&T - Hence this post was 24kt gold.
- xiaoma 13y agoHN stores comments permanently and offers no way in which to delete them. Given the current trends it's overwhelmingly likely that someone will eventually be detained, harassed or put on a no-fly list due to past comments on HN. Given the subject matter, doesn't it seem reasonable that a lot of people would see more risk than benefit in commenting? If your primary goal in life is activism, then sure. But most of us have other primary goals.
- ims 13y ago> Given the current trends it's overwhelmingly likely that someone will eventually be detained, harassed or put on a no-fly list due to past comments on HN. This is sarcastic, right?
- fixxer 13y agoHonestly, I'm at a loss for words. I feel like I'm stuck in a life imitating art moment (with Orwell painting the picture).
- bargl 13y agoI'd like to point out that it takes about that long to get through the article and clip. But just the article deserves and upvote.