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They tried to get away from skeuomorphism, but still some remains. Just look at PassBook or the ugly 3D browsing through tabs. The whole design simply is not w

They tried to get away from skeuomorphism, but still some remains. Just look at PassBook or the ugly 3D browsing through tabs. The whole design simply is not well thought out. This has clearly been rushed, which is not something I expect from Apple. If iOS 7 was leaked, people wouldn't believe it's the real thing. Sadly, it is. I'm staying with Windows Phone.

drpancake 13y ago
I'm not sure if flipping through 3D browser tabs mimics a real-life affordance.
- deleted 13y ago
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- mortenjorck 13y ago
  The limited flat/skeu vocabulary doesn't have a word for it, but it's what I'd call a depth cue. (If you'll indulge me linking to my own article, I've tried to lay out a better framework here: http://interuserface.net/2013/05/flat-is-not-the-opposite-of-skeuomorphic/ http://interuserface.net/2013/05/flat-is-not-the-opposite-of...)
- adw 13y ago
  It's a card index. (I happen to think it's a decent metaphor, but whatever, it's Internet Hate Week today.)
- dsego 13y ago
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZZLvVTWuJM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZZLvVTWuJM
midnitewarrior 13y ago
I didn't know what Microsoft meant in their description of Windows Phone as "Authentically Digital" until I just saw the ugly bombshell Apple just left. The new iOS looks half-baked, they can't do anything too bold, else they lose their metaphors, yet they can't do anything radical like Microsoft did without redefining their platform and re-educating their users. Run away. Fast.
- coldtea 13y ago
  >Run away. Fast. Towards an Applestore? I've been using an iPhone since 3GS, and this is the best release ever. Both in features and looks.
  - midnitewarrior 13y ago
    Perhaps if you like unicorns puking all over your phone... http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2013/06/ios-control-center-2.jpg http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2013/06/ios-co...
  - miguelrochefort 13y ago
    You don't seem to understand how design works. Tell me you like those new icons.
    - coldtea 13y ago
      >You don't seem to understand how design works. Yes. Along with those high profile designers in Cupertino. >Tell me you like those new icons. You don't seem to understand how design works. It's not about "liking" the icons. Icons are not pretty pictures for you to "like" or not. It's about how the thing works, and if they fit their role. "Liking them" has little to do with it. If you check top downloaded themes for Gnome, KDE, or Windows theme managers, you'll find out that people "like" all kinds of BS junk.
    - coldtea 13y ago
      >You don't seem to understand how design works. Yes. Along with those high profile designers in Cupertino. >Tell me you like those new icons. You don't seem to understand how design works. It's not about "liking" the icons. Icons are not pretty pictures for you to "like" or not. It's about how the thing works, and if they fit their role. "Liking them" has little to do with it. If you check top downloaded themes for Gnome, KDE, or Windows theme managers, you'll find out that people "like" all kinds of BS junk.
midnitewarrior 13y ago
I didn't know what Microsoft meant in their description of Windows Phone as "Authentically Digital" until I just saw the ugly bombshell Apple just left. The new iOS looks half-baked, they can't do anything too bold, else they lose their metaphors, yet they can't do anything radical like Microsoft did without redefining their platform and re-educating their users. Run away. Fast.
coldtea 13y ago
>They tried to get away from skeuomorphism, but still some remains. Just look at PassBook or the ugly 3D browsing through tabs. What's ugly about those tabs? And what's ...skeuomorphic about them? They remind you of real life huge rectangles with webpages on them that you browse through 3D space at home?
coldtea 13y ago
>They tried to get away from skeuomorphism, but still some remains. Just look at PassBook or the ugly 3D browsing through tabs. What's ugly about those tabs? And what's ...skeuomorphic about them? They remind you of real life huge rectangles with webpages on them that you browse through 3D space at home? >The whole design simply is not well thought out. This has clearly been rushed, which is not something I expect from Apple. BS, if they didn't make any drastic changes the same people would say "oh, they didn't go far enough" etc. The new UI looks extremely polished and well thought out. And it wasn't just a design overhaul, they changed tons of behaviour and added lots of features too. >I'm staying with Windows Phone. Well, if you already have a Windows Phone, I don't think you're the kind of person that would appreciate iOS, anyway.
- midnitewarrior 13y ago
  > Well, if you already have a Windows Phone, I don't think you're the kind of person that would appreciate iOS, anyway. That's an arrogant and elitist thing to say. Your iWhatever doesn't make you a better human being, it just makes you think you have the right to tell that to others. Don't be an iAsshole.

drpancake 13y ago

I'm not sure if flipping through 3D browser tabs mimics a real-life affordance.

deleted 13y ago
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mortenjorck 13y ago
The limited flat/skeu vocabulary doesn't have a word for it, but it's what I'd call a depth cue. (If you'll indulge me linking to my own article, I've tried to lay out a better framework here: http://interuserface.net/2013/05/flat-is-not-the-opposite-of-skeuomorphic/ http://interuserface.net/2013/05/flat-is-not-the-opposite-of...)
adw 13y ago
It's a card index. (I happen to think it's a decent metaphor, but whatever, it's Internet Hate Week today.)
dsego 13y ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZZLvVTWuJM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZZLvVTWuJM

midnitewarrior 13y ago

I didn't know what Microsoft meant in their description of Windows Phone as "Authentically Digital" until I just saw the ugly bombshell Apple just left. The new iOS looks half-baked, they can't do anything too bold, else they lose their metaphors, yet they can't do anything radical like Microsoft did without redefining their platform and re-educating their users. Run away. Fast.

coldtea 13y ago
>Run away. Fast. Towards an Applestore? I've been using an iPhone since 3GS, and this is the best release ever. Both in features and looks.
- midnitewarrior 13y ago
  Perhaps if you like unicorns puking all over your phone... http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2013/06/ios-control-center-2.jpg http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2013/06/ios-co...
- miguelrochefort 13y ago
  You don't seem to understand how design works. Tell me you like those new icons.
  - coldtea 13y ago
    >You don't seem to understand how design works. Yes. Along with those high profile designers in Cupertino. >Tell me you like those new icons. You don't seem to understand how design works. It's not about "liking" the icons. Icons are not pretty pictures for you to "like" or not. It's about how the thing works, and if they fit their role. "Liking them" has little to do with it. If you check top downloaded themes for Gnome, KDE, or Windows theme managers, you'll find out that people "like" all kinds of BS junk.
  - coldtea 13y ago
    >You don't seem to understand how design works. Yes. Along with those high profile designers in Cupertino. >Tell me you like those new icons. You don't seem to understand how design works. It's not about "liking" the icons. Icons are not pretty pictures for you to "like" or not. It's about how the thing works, and if they fit their role. "Liking them" has little to do with it. If you check top downloaded themes for Gnome, KDE, or Windows theme managers, you'll find out that people "like" all kinds of BS junk.

midnitewarrior 13y ago

coldtea 13y ago

>They tried to get away from skeuomorphism, but still some remains. Just look at PassBook or the ugly 3D browsing through tabs. What's ugly about those tabs? And what's ...skeuomorphic about them? They remind you of real life huge rectangles with webpages on them that you browse through 3D space at home? >The whole design simply is not well thought out. This has clearly been rushed, which is not something I expect from Apple. BS, if they didn't make any drastic changes the same people would say "oh, they didn't go far enough" etc. The new UI looks extremely polished and well thought out. And it wasn't just a design overhaul, they changed tons of behaviour and added lots of features too. >I'm staying with Windows Phone. Well, if you already have a Windows Phone, I don't think you're the kind of person that would appreciate iOS, anyway.

midnitewarrior 13y ago
> Well, if you already have a Windows Phone, I don't think you're the kind of person that would appreciate iOS, anyway. That's an arrogant and elitist thing to say. Your iWhatever doesn't make you a better human being, it just makes you think you have the right to tell that to others. Don't be an iAsshole.