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Apple Introduces iOS 7
- bhauer 13y agoI'm sure it will be repeated indefinitely, but I might as well kick it off: Looks a lot like it was inspired a bit by Android and a bit by Windows Phone. To my eye, the font looks like an Android device and the rest of the UI looks like Windows Phone. Note: this is a good thing. The old iOS looked tired and dated.
- Peroni 13y agoI've used both Windows Phone and iOS quite extensively and one of the few things I think WP does well is the UI. To give Apple credit, the new design looks incredibly different whilst maintaining the familiarity.
- bhauer 13y agoI have not owned an iOS device since the original iPhone, so take my opinion with a huge grain of salt. Since that time, this redesign is the first that has actually caught my eye. So I completely agree, the new design is refreshing and they deserve a great deal of credit.
- tptacek 13y agoI feel like all of the design and promotion in this WWDC was a notch or two less egocentric than the mean of the last 5 WWDCs; even their tagline has become less idiosyncratic ("the intersection of liberal arts and [whatever else it was]") to "making good products people love". They made fun of themselves relentlessly ("no stitching, yet the calendar doesn't fall off the screen") and showcased unrepentantly nerdy features. It felt a little like a shift from the Apple of Jobs to the Apple of California, down to the new OS X names.
- r00fus 13y agoThis is Cook's Apple. And Federighi's iOS. Looking good so far.
- kunai 13y agoI agree; this was a developer's conference first, and a product unveiling second. As much as I hate to say it, I think I like Cook's, Federighi's, and Ive's Apple more than I liked Jobs', Serlet's, and Forstall's Apple. They care more, they listen, and that speaks a lot.
- infinia 13y agoI like the design overall, but am I the only person who thinks these icons are awful? In particular, the color palette they used and the ugly gradients used (app store icon).
- TillE 13y agoThe Safari icon looks particularly strange. The white border sticks out in an unpleasant way.
- badusername 13y agoAgree with the almost-amateurish feel to those icons. Many of those icons seem ill-proportioned to me, especially the icons for Messages.
- drinchev 13y agoIt's always hard to create a flat design version of something created non-flat before. I really thought that Apple will do it's best to preserve the functionality of it's own designs and I think it really did it at 99.9%. Those icons aren't the best they could do, but it will change in time for sure!
- andrewmunsell 13y agoPersonally, this was exactly like what I was thinking-- to me, some of those icons look like bad mockup-stage design. Some of those gradients, in my opinion, are pretty bad and do not work.
- actionscripted 13y agoIt just feels like the like source is different for different icons (some go light-to-dark, others are the reverse), and it's driving my designer eye crazy.
- drinchev 13y agoWell you can never tell this, until you see it on your phone. Most of the icons may look like a basic photoshop tutorial, but still that's the minimalistic approach of flat design. You've got a really different view of something ( a gradient ) outside of it context ( the whole UI ) and the same element as part of a whole design. That wasn't pretty obvious to the great super-pixel-detailed skeuromorphic design, where each icon was a whole design, but I'm pretty sure we'll speak differently by the end of the year when we get that iOS and evaluate the change for real. Take a look at their new demo paga [1] it looks pretty nice and flattened. I'm afraid of what will happen to the 3rd party apps, that will not get a flat-design update. [1] : http://www.apple.com/ios/ios7/ http://www.apple.com/ios/ios7/
- ashbrahma 13y agoLooks like the cards concept was inspired by Palm OS.
- AHconsidered 13y agoiOS 7 is a lesson in beauty and in simplicity.
- bookwormAT 13y agoNot a lesson. But a lesson well learned.
- refrigerator 13y agoI'm not a fan of the icons at all :( The gradients and bright colours make it look too cartoony and childish, and some of the icons themselves (eg phone, safari) look strange. I quite like the typography and new design style for apps though, so overall I think it's pretty good. The messaging app definitely looks inspired by Windows Phone, but I haven't really got a problem with that.
- kunai 13y agoI like the color scheme. It's positive and fresh, I think Windows Phone 8 looks drab, bland, and very boring in comparison. Android's Holo is still one of the best color schemes for a mobile device, IMHO.
- matmann2001 13y agoWhen other companies update a mobile OS, it gives the phone new features, not just a new font and icons.
- wmeredith 13y agoThere's a ton of new features. Not sure what you're talking about.
- matmann2001 13y agoList the innovative ones.
- DannoHung 13y agoWhat counts as an innovation?
- matmann2001 13y agoSomething that greatly improves everyday use of the device, but isn't a ripoff of something that's been on several versions of Android already.
- SG- 13y agoLikely whatever obscure feature OP thinks is important to him and not others.
- msh 13y agoThe anti theft, require original appleid to activate wiped device for one.
- r00fus 13y agoWonder how that impacts resale. Do you need to "unregister" your device to sell it?
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- ChrisClark 13y agoSeems like they took the best design of both stock Android and Windows Phone. Really slick. They've also added a few of the great features from Android and Chrome too, catching up a bit. I think people will be happy with this.
- psbp 13y agoAlso a ton of webOS. They copied cards for safari and multi-tasking more than Android has.
- thecosas 13y agoI was confused that they used different interactions for safari tabs vs multitasking. I feel like the multitasking interaction is cleaner ie. right/left swipe to change tabs, swipe up to dismiss. Note: the only bad thing I noticed haha.
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- abe_duarte 13y agoDon't like the icons either and the typography and "simple" design looks like Android 4.0... hmmm It was a necessary change though, after so many years.
- bblatnick 13y agoJobs must be rolling in his grave with this UI.
- gcb0 13y agoa demo where you can't read[1] the labels... copying microsoft design for icons. ouch. [1] http://techcrunch.com/2013/06/10/apple-ios-7/scaled-screen-shot-2013-06-10-at-2-22-42-pm/ http://techcrunch.com/2013/06/10/apple-ios-7/scaled-screen-s...
- danabramov 13y agoWhat you're linking to is not iOS7 but a mockup done by 9to5mac. Oh, wait.
- gcb0 13y agoah, sorry, got from the linked article on the bottom of the page. can't edit... well, just let's look at the weather app then and bash apple for outright copying 100% of the app from yahoo (except the flickr photos on the background) :)
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- gcb0 13y agohttp://www.apple.com/ios/ios7/ http://www.apple.com/ios/ios7/ not really :) see the "control center" pic there, same icons... i think... plus a mother of pearl background on the dialog... ugh.
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- nu2ycombinator 13y agoI like old icons with a reflection on the glass dock. Flat UI is not an eye pleasure.
- grey-area 13y agoI really like this - they've taken the best ideas they found in WebOS (flicking cards), Windows Phone (flat UI, but NOT the idea of live squares, or the ugly typography), and Android (swipe screen and more swipe notifications, what else?). It'd be nice if others looked again at WebOS as we lost a lot of good ideas there - I still feel like they could radically reinvent multi-tasking and just let apps present as many cards as they want in stacks or something, base it all around cards/views rather than apps. The typography looks nice - Helvetica Neue works well on devices with a retina display, though we've yet to see how it works on older devices, perhaps iOS 7 will require retina? I'm really pleased to see they've removed some of the tasteless fake leather etc that iOS previously indulged in (compass app, games centre etc), while retaining hints of real depth and physical relations where it actually helps the design (as in the translucent keyboard). I wonder how much of that was stuff that Steve personally insisted on? Some of the icons could do with some polish, but it's hard to redesign an entire set probably coordinating with different teams and keep them all up to the same standard - I'm sure revisions to those will come with time, and at least we've lost all that faux 3D render effect which doesn't work so well at small scale - these flatter logos are an improvement in most cases I think, though things like the photos app icon don't make sense to me. The radio and itunes icons are an example of something that works extremely well in this style though. There are far better screenshots on this other story: http://techcrunch.com/2013/06/10/live-blog-wwdc-2013-keynote/ http://techcrunch.com/2013/06/10/live-blog-wwdc-2013-keynote...
- msh 13y agoios 7 support ipad2 and mini, so they dont require retina.
- sinnerswing 13y agoFree iTunes Radio. No subscription. I'm in. Edit: Without iTunes Match = Free iTunes Radio (with ads). With iTunes Match = Free iTunes Radio (without ads).
- youngerdryas 13y agoIf you have iTunes Match.
- S_A_P 13y agoThis is a damned if they do, damned if they dont moment for Apple. The UI needed a refresh. They have to follow design trends that make sense. The mobile UI is maturing and standardizing since there have been a lot of smart people thrown at the problem. I think the design is classy, functional and is refreshing. I dont know that there is a "best" in class anymore. I think WP stepped up the UI frontier and Android seems to get the message that things need to have good design aesthetic. I dont think apple nailed every aspect of the refresh, and its not perfect. I do think that it will provide a solid foundation to move iOS forward, and Im very glad they got away from skeuomorphic design. I've never been much of a fan of that design, as it usually ends up negating all the advantages of software UI.
- bblatnick 13y agoThe thing I don't like with this is that Apple, with Jobs, used to set the trends in UI not follow them.
- westonh 13y agoI really hope we have an option to use Google Maps for all these in-the-car features.
- johnvschmitt 13y agoThey allow changing Wifi settings without even unlocking the phone. Be really careful about letting anyone touch your phone, esp. at conferences/airports. A hacker could setup an easy MITM Wifi, to capture all of your traffic. But, now, without unlocking your phone (but still getting their physical hands on it), they can connect your phone to the Wifi SSID of their MITM attack network. Then, you're just surfing facebook, email, bank sites, & everything looks 100% legit. Meanwhile all of that traffic is going through their wifi & they can capture your sessions & impersonate you. Nasty stuff. All it'd take is one malicious network, and a band of attractive agents to shmooze unsuspecting people into showing them their phones to harvest tons of sessions & data.
- tptacek 13y agoAre you sure about this?
- johnvschmitt 13y agoFrom the article: "Control Center is a pull-up tray that is available in your lock screen. You can adjust brightness, volume, and other settings including Wifi, Airplane mode, rotation lock, or Bluetooth. "
- tptacek 13y agoAre you sure that means you can easily switch a locked phone to an untrusted network?
- masklinn 13y agoIn the demos/screenshots it looked like fast switches where you could enable-disable things (wifi, bluetooth, airplane, flashlight), nothing more. edit: http://www.apple.com/ios/ios7/features/ http://www.apple.com/ios/ios7/features/ confirms it > Turn on or off Airplane mode, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, and Do Not Disturb. Lock your screen’s orientation or adjust its brightness. Play, pause, or skip a song. Connect to AirPlay-enabled devices. And quickly access your flashlight, timer, calculator, and camera. (emphasis mine)
- perlpimp 13y agoToo bad people don't speak about the fact that Apple participates in PRISM, at least that should've tarnished their products release. Instead you have glib masses waiting for handmedowns of great products(electronic collars) in exchange for liberty and right to privacy.
- msh 13y agoumm, thats not special to apple, their competitors also do it, and I guess most large US companies.
- youngerdryas 13y agoHey, your bag of stupid is leaking into other threads.
- cromwellian 13y agoThe Mobile Safari tab switcher looks like a clone of Chrome of iOS/Android. Control Center? Christ, that's been in Android for ages. What irritates me is that other companies get accused all the time of copying the smallest things from Apple, even microphone icons, gloss, or rounded corners. However, Apple clearly was a late comer on many of these features, and they are inspired, and in some cases, downright cloned, and they're going to get a pass. What if Google had a patent on Chrome's tab switcher and sued Apple? Or on a Power Controls setting pane? Or on cross-device open-tab sharing? There's be outrage among Apple users, because people just don't seem to see Apple building on other people's designs, because Apple presents all of them as major, radical innovations without acknowledgement of their prior existence. I wish all of the claims of theft and copying would get dropped, I don't have a problem with Apple "stealing shamlessly" the ideas of others, I just wish they'd stop going nuclear when other people do it.
- sinnerswing 13y ago>The Mobile Safari tab switcher looks like a clone of Chrome of iOS/Android. Control Center? Christ, that's been in Android for ages. You mentioned 2 features out of 1,000 Apple showed this morning. Google copied the entire concept and design of the iPhone. Big difference.
- kunai 13y agoI hate Google for their lack of respect for privacy, but I disagree. Copied is pushing it, definitely. I'd say "inspired". There has been plenty, plenty of innovation on Google's side. Also, the concept of a capacitive touchscreen existed before the iPhone, take the LG Prada. Apple wasn't the first to do it. They were the first to do it right, and if people are inspired to improve upon it further, I see that as a great, positive thing, not a bad thing. I don't see how you could call yourself a hacker with that kind of mentality.
- cromwellian 13y agoSince I work at Google, you'll have to qualify that claim, because in my opinion, Google has more respect for user data than most other companies. The iPhone 4 actually looked like an LG Prada as well. James Hahn demonstrated many of the multitouch gestures before Apple, proving that other people were coming up with the same ideas independently as soon as the tech for detecting multiple touches accurately was available (capacitive touch) Apple did bring a lot of things together in the iPhone 1, but that shouldn't give them the right to own the entire concept of a touch screen phone, nor should they be allowed to hamper competition through stupid patents like the data-tapping patent. Imagine if IBM had patented the PC or Xerox the UI, and aggressively sued anyone who tried to use them, as well as refusing to license at a reasonable rate. The entire PC revolution, which was kicked off by cloning and free-form building on the work of competitors, might have been hampered. Apple stands on the shoulders of giants too, and they should not attempt to cripple those that want to stand on their shoulders.
- daigoba66 13y agoIt's not "flat", it's layered. I like that.
- jmduke 13y agoFrom a corporate perspective: Apple's pretty much wholesale using Google's new design philosophy now, with some stuff grabbed from WP and webOS along the way. This really isn't helping the innovation debate too much. From a personal perspective: Yay! I have an iPad and iPhone and I'm looking forward to them looking much better.
- eurleif 13y agoGreat artists steal?
- mladenkovacevic 13y agoSo will developers have to redesign their apps to bring the visual look more in line with this new version of iOS? The old iOS had such a defined design language, I wonder if opening an app that doesn't have the new "flat" look will feel terribly inconsistent or jarring. The free radio service sounds unbelievable though. I'm very jealous of iOS users just for that (even though I'm not a big music listener)
- drinchev 13y agoI'm pretty curious will this affect 3rd party apps, like Facebook and Twitter. Apple didn't show them on the demo ( and any other 3rd party app ), so basically we should be careful of how we design apps in the future!
- brunnsbe 13y agoChange the white background to gray and you have the design of Nokia's N9 user interface (which isn't a bad thing). Ps. Actually I must check how to change the background on my N9 to give it a fresh look. ;-)
- cpeterso 13y ago> Instead of white bars on a black background, Apple will now tell you what kind of service coverage you have with five little dots, which are white and grey depending on how strong the signal is across a translucent background. I don't understand why Apple dropped signal bars for "dots". The term "bars" for cell signal is common, mainstream terminology. The dots take up more status bar space than the bars (unless Apple really plans to remove the carrier name from the status bar). Perhaps Apple is trying to marginalize the carrier's branding and distance themselves from "signal-gate" by not using the common "bar" terminology? In the future, there will be no cell networks, only FaceTime. And bars will be obsolete.