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This "operation," is just ridiculous and childish, and worst case say it could actually pose a risk...I'm definitely a supporter of privacy, just closing ur fac

This "operation," is just ridiculous and childish, and worst case say it could actually pose a risk...I'm definitely a supporter of privacy, just closing ur facebook, using linux, and turning off your phone during precious conversations (reducing ur digital footprint)...that will do more than creating an unnecessary risk like this.

hellcow 13y ago
Turning off your phone doesn't disable the microphone. You have to physically remove the battery.
- quackerhacker 13y ago
  I know that was the case with Nextel phones, is that the same with iOS devices?
  - hellcow 13y ago
    There's no evidence to the contrary, and Apple was named in the PRISM scandal, so you have to operate under the assumption that it is. Sell it and buy a non-smartphone with a removable battery.
  - Zigurd 13y ago
    That type of spying capability is implemented in the telephony baseband. It is commanded using the signalling channel of telephony protocols. Whether or not it is in a particular device depends on the chips that connect to the telephone network.
- Zenst 13y ago
  Wonder if there is a market for phone modifications that add an external on/off switch for the mic's (and speakers). Silly but paranoia sells.
Zenst 13y ago
I agree, it does seem somewhat silly and is akin to complaining about how rape cases are handeled by everybody going out and crying rape. Wont fix rapes, wont solve rapes, will make it harder to see real rapes taking place. With that if this event takes place and somebody dies due to intel not being obvious due to the amount of troll/spam then would those instigating the troll/spam and those partaking in it be as guilty of the crime that was not stopped. Certainly not a impossible situation and with that I sure would not wont to be responsible impossing detrement against another, even if the intentions were good, the approach is wrong.

hellcow 13y ago

Turning off your phone doesn't disable the microphone. You have to physically remove the battery.

quackerhacker 13y ago
I know that was the case with Nextel phones, is that the same with iOS devices?
- hellcow 13y ago
  There's no evidence to the contrary, and Apple was named in the PRISM scandal, so you have to operate under the assumption that it is. Sell it and buy a non-smartphone with a removable battery.
- Zigurd 13y ago
  That type of spying capability is implemented in the telephony baseband. It is commanded using the signalling channel of telephony protocols. Whether or not it is in a particular device depends on the chips that connect to the telephone network.
Zenst 13y ago
Wonder if there is a market for phone modifications that add an external on/off switch for the mic's (and speakers). Silly but paranoia sells.

Zenst 13y ago

I agree, it does seem somewhat silly and is akin to complaining about how rape cases are handeled by everybody going out and crying rape. Wont fix rapes, wont solve rapes, will make it harder to see real rapes taking place. With that if this event takes place and somebody dies due to intel not being obvious due to the amount of troll/spam then would those instigating the troll/spam and those partaking in it be as guilty of the crime that was not stopped. Certainly not a impossible situation and with that I sure would not wont to be responsible impossing detrement against another, even if the intentions were good, the approach is wrong.