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Why can't I use Firefox or Chrome to view this?

criswell 13y ago
"Live Streaming video requires Safari 4 or later on Mac OS X v10.6 or later; Safari on iOS 4.2 or later. Streaming via Apple TV requires second- or third-generation Apple TV with software 5.0.2 or later." Give me a break.
- mitchty 13y ago
  Its just http live streaming, use vlc if you want to its worked in the past.
diroussel 13y ago
If you are interested in this event running Safari is no great hardship.
- untog 13y ago
  Somehow I doubt HN would have the same reaction if MS forced people to use Internet Explorer to watch a video.
- philfreo 13y ago
  Hardship? Of course not - it's right there in my dock. My point is more about open web standards and Apple not caring about them here.
  - diroussel 13y ago
    Definition: > "An open standard [1] is a standard that is publicly available and has various rights to use associated with it," Published standard: HTTP Live Streaming at IETF [2] See also: HTTP Live Streaming at apple.com [3] The real question is why have none of the other browsers gone on to implement what is a very efficient streaming technology. And HTTP live streaming is very web-like, there's not really any new technology there. Instead Firefox and Chrome put effort into WebRTC, which seems like a lot more work. Although I do accept that WebRTC is orthogonal to HTTP Live streaming. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_standard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_standard [2] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-pantos-http-live-streaming-11 https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-pantos-http-live-streaming... [3] https://developer.apple.com/streaming/ https://developer.apple.com/streaming/
    - philfreo 13y ago
      Didn't realize there was an actual standard being used here that simply wasn't supported by the other browsers.
  - diroussel 13y ago
    Oh and what standard live streaming should they have used?
publicfig 13y ago
I could definitely be wrong, but I believe neither have support for HTTP Live Streaming, which is Apple's preferred way of streaming video.
wmeredith 13y ago
Because it's their content.

"Live Streaming video requires Safari 4 or later on Mac OS X v10.6 or later; Safari on iOS 4.2 or later. Streaming via Apple TV requires second- or third-generation Apple TV with software 5.0.2 or later." Give me a break.

mitchty 13y ago
Its just http live streaming, use vlc if you want to its worked in the past.

diroussel 13y ago

If you are interested in this event running Safari is no great hardship.

untog 13y ago
Somehow I doubt HN would have the same reaction if MS forced people to use Internet Explorer to watch a video.
philfreo 13y ago
Hardship? Of course not - it's right there in my dock. My point is more about open web standards and Apple not caring about them here.
- diroussel 13y ago
  Definition: > "An open standard [1] is a standard that is publicly available and has various rights to use associated with it," Published standard: HTTP Live Streaming at IETF [2] See also: HTTP Live Streaming at apple.com [3] The real question is why have none of the other browsers gone on to implement what is a very efficient streaming technology. And HTTP live streaming is very web-like, there's not really any new technology there. Instead Firefox and Chrome put effort into WebRTC, which seems like a lot more work. Although I do accept that WebRTC is orthogonal to HTTP Live streaming. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_standard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_standard [2] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-pantos-http-live-streaming-11 https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-pantos-http-live-streaming... [3] https://developer.apple.com/streaming/ https://developer.apple.com/streaming/
  - philfreo 13y ago
    Didn't realize there was an actual standard being used here that simply wasn't supported by the other browsers.
- diroussel 13y ago
  Oh and what standard live streaming should they have used?

publicfig 13y ago

I could definitely be wrong, but I believe neither have support for HTTP Live Streaming, which is Apple's preferred way of streaming video.

wmeredith 13y ago

Because it's their content.