Can you (easily) install one without the other? I know I can go around my browsers and disable the plugins after an install, but then I'm going to have to do th

Can you (easily) install one without the other? I know I can go around my browsers and disable the plugins after an install, but then I'm going to have to do the same thing each time there's a java security update and the runtime gets upgraded. Not to mention Oracle's crappy habits of bundling toolbars & other crud along with each security patch.