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Well it's a real (if secret) court, so I assume it would be what normally happens for contempt of court.
by mpyne 13y ago
Well it's a real (if secret) court, so I assume it would be what normally happens for contempt of court.
- jes5199 13y agoWhat sort of consequences can they impose without revealing the existence of the secret court?
- davmre 13y agoThe existence of the court is not secret, only its proceedings.
- mcherm 13y agoAlso its members and its decisions.
- mpyne 13y agoThe existence of the court itself is not secret, the proceedings are. But they could issue a fine or jail sentence without leaking the rest of the proceedings themselves, if I understand the legal process right. Edit: Way to mind-meld on the comments, team. Holy crap.
- invisible 13y agoYour edit just reminds me of all of the people screaming that all of the companies wrote their stories using a "template" because each press release they put out sounded similar and used similar words. Heh...
- steveklabnik 13y agoThe existence of the court isn't secret, it's the proceedings that are.
- mcherm 13y agoAlso its members and its decisions.
- eightyone 13y agoIt's my understanding that the secret court ruled the primary legal justification for PRISM (FISA Section 702) as unconstitutional. The Justice Department is trying to keep that ruling as secret as possible. [1] So, really, what would they do? [1] https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/06/government-says-secret-court-opinion-law-underlying-prism-program-needs-stay https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/06/government-says-secret...
- Andrew_Quentin 13y agoHow can they rule the justification as unconstitutiona when the judges were giving court orders under that justification? More broadly though, I don't understand how you can possibly have secret courts. Justice not only must be done but must be seen to be done, otherwise its not justice.
- eightyone 13y agoI'm not a lawyer, but I believe they declared only part of FISA unconstitutional. The part they declared unconstitutional happens to be the primary crux of the legal argument for PRISM. I don't understand how you can have secret courts either. It's a perversion of what this country was founded upon.
- rdl 13y agoI'm personally most interested in ACLU's challenges about Tor/VPN providers and FAA.
- JanezStupar 13y agoSecret courts are not about justice. They are about masking injustice behind the veil of "law". Since US is a country with long tradition of rule of law. The easiest way of subverting the rule of law is by subverting the concept of a judge and of a court. There.