I'm still making my mind up about what I think about the activities of Edward Snowden. (I was just reading some of the press coverage about him, especially the

I'm still making my mind up about what I think about the activities of Edward Snowden. (I was just reading some of the press coverage about him, especially the extensive story about him in The Guardian.) And I am on record here on HN sharing information about mass popular movements to fight tyranny https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5840000 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5840000 and commenting on cases I have personally observed and participated in of turning a country from dictatorship with a secret police including political assassins into a representative democracy with a free press, fair elections, and independent judiciary, and constitutionally protected civil liberties. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5844864 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5844864 That said, I am also on record somewhere on HN expressing the general opinion that it is pointless for us to submit White House petitions here as new stories. That's not really on-topic for HN, and it's not clear to me (in light of my knowledge of what kind of protest movements have worked in the past to overcome dictatorships) that posting a White House petition here does any good in the real world. Your opinion may differ, but I offer the thought that we have better means http://www.aeinstein.org/organizationsde07.html http://www.aeinstein.org/organizationsde07.html of tackling your concern about government data-gathering programs than posting White House petitions. If you like the petitions, share them in your social networks in which you see your friends, but discuss the real, powerful democracy hacker tools here.