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I completely agree with negligence on the part of the facility management and entire hierarchy of responsibility there. I just think it's a separate issue :-)

• andrewcooke 13y ago
  it's not separate. the reason why such harsh penalties are needed (i imagine, from the pov of the government) is because there's nothing else to stop others from doing the same damage. in your apology for the status quo above, where you mumble on about the need to protect society (and make trains run on time), you conveniently forget that there are many tools for that, including security guards. also, if there had been competent security, then they wouldn't have got so far and would likely be open to significantly less charges. it seems particularly unfair (to me, i guess you'll find an excuse) that the incompetent security lead directly to worse charges. so again - not separate. i'm sorry for the vitriol above, well not really, but people who say they understand and then dream up excuses to have everything continue exactly as before make my blood boil.
  • jasallen 13y ago
    huh, and phrases like 'mumble on' make your point stronger? I wonder, what have you stood up for? I was trying to have an exchange of ideas, but as long as we're making it personal, people who save their bravery and vitriol for the internet make my blood boil.
    • andrewcooke 13y ago
      if it's any consolation, i would be mad in your face too. but my post had both rhetoric and an argument. yours? [update: on the other hand, this is the second time in two days i've lost my temper, which isn't good. i am going to take a break from the internet.]