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God bless Manning; a true American Hero that remembered he swear to protect his mother's soil from enemies foreign AND DOMESTIC. He will probably rot in jail f

God bless Manning; a true American Hero that remembered he swear to protect his mother's soil from enemies foreign AND DOMESTIC. He will probably rot in jail for the rest of his life for what he did. And I salute him for taking the hit!

znowi 13y ago
> He will probably rot in jail This is where we, the people, must step in to make sure it doesn't happen.
- smsm42 13y ago
  And how you plan to achieve that? Short of overthrowing US government, I don't see how it is possible to not have Manning, who violated a ton of US laws and already pled guilty for some of those violations, not going to jail. The law is not American Idol, so ending a lot of SMSes to some paid number is not going to work. Neither liking some page on Facebook would. Any other ideas?
  - girvo 13y ago
    Hey everyone, try not to let emotions take over. Downvotes shouldn't be used for disagreement, that's what `reply' is for. For what it's worth, I agree with you. I think Manning did something truly worthwhile, and he DID break laws in doing so. Unfortunately, he will pay the price for that. I feel conflicted by it.
  - lostlogin 13y ago
    The law is not American Idol - the rich and well connected don't win that contest so easily.
    - smsm42 13y ago
      They win because you enable them by your votes. Each politician elected today had people voting for them. Each of this people decided to vote for this politician in his own free will. However rich you are, you still have to have people voting for you. So these "well connected" people are there because of the voters that put them there.
steve19 13y ago
I am asking for downvotes, but I really don't see how Manning was fighting against domestic enemies. He leaked a dump of data about foreign operations and foreign governments. He could not have even known what most of it contained. I wish we had a hero to champion our fight for privacy, but I don't think Manning is that person. An anti-war hero, maybe. A lot of the information he dumped violated the privacy of individuals who worked for the government, interacted with the government, or were in government in other countries. We can't know for sure some poor Afghans did not suffer reprisals. We need someone in government who is willing spill everything about these domestic programs, then fight against the charges leveled against him/her in court (knowing that most likely the court will come down upon them like a pile of bricks).
- lostlogin 13y ago
  He showed the military killing foreign civilians with callous disregard. This is/was happening supposedly to benefit the US public, and make the US safer. If someone was doing this in my name, Id sure want to know about it and want something to prevent jail time for the whistle blower. He broke some laws to expose massive violations and that's a mitigating circumstance. God knows (or a lawyer may) if mitigating circumstances are allowed to apply though.

znowi 13y ago

> He will probably rot in jail This is where we, the people, must step in to make sure it doesn't happen.

smsm42 13y ago
And how you plan to achieve that? Short of overthrowing US government, I don't see how it is possible to not have Manning, who violated a ton of US laws and already pled guilty for some of those violations, not going to jail. The law is not American Idol, so ending a lot of SMSes to some paid number is not going to work. Neither liking some page on Facebook would. Any other ideas?
- girvo 13y ago
  Hey everyone, try not to let emotions take over. Downvotes shouldn't be used for disagreement, that's what `reply' is for. For what it's worth, I agree with you. I think Manning did something truly worthwhile, and he DID break laws in doing so. Unfortunately, he will pay the price for that. I feel conflicted by it.
- lostlogin 13y ago
  The law is not American Idol - the rich and well connected don't win that contest so easily.
  - smsm42 13y ago
    They win because you enable them by your votes. Each politician elected today had people voting for them. Each of this people decided to vote for this politician in his own free will. However rich you are, you still have to have people voting for you. So these "well connected" people are there because of the voters that put them there.

steve19 13y ago

I am asking for downvotes, but I really don't see how Manning was fighting against domestic enemies. He leaked a dump of data about foreign operations and foreign governments. He could not have even known what most of it contained. I wish we had a hero to champion our fight for privacy, but I don't think Manning is that person. An anti-war hero, maybe. A lot of the information he dumped violated the privacy of individuals who worked for the government, interacted with the government, or were in government in other countries. We can't know for sure some poor Afghans did not suffer reprisals. We need someone in government who is willing spill everything about these domestic programs, then fight against the charges leveled against him/her in court (knowing that most likely the court will come down upon them like a pile of bricks).

lostlogin 13y ago
He showed the military killing foreign civilians with callous disregard. This is/was happening supposedly to benefit the US public, and make the US safer. If someone was doing this in my name, Id sure want to know about it and want something to prevent jail time for the whistle blower. He broke some laws to expose massive violations and that's a mitigating circumstance. God knows (or a lawyer may) if mitigating circumstances are allowed to apply though.