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There is no Salafi army capable of achieving military victory against the United States. The existential threat is zero. Therefore, I see no reason why our sac
by jivatmanx 13y ago
There is no Salafi army capable of achieving military victory against the United States. The existential threat is zero.
Therefore, I see no reason why our sacred liberties should be secretly sacrificed as "tactics" in an eternal, global war.
Better to declare global perpetual war against pools, bathtubs, or uncooked food. It would be cheaper and save more lives. Oh, and, preserve the sacrifice of those who died fighting for our freedom.
Or, is a life lost to a one who has claimed jihad worth more than one from uncooked food?
It may be that Bush was right, that terrorists wish us to abandon our liberties. So, too do the disciples of Leo Strauss who want to elevate to warriors the ideology of people who are merely sad, pathetic men no different from the killers of random school shootings, and deserve no more.
- mpyne 13y agoI can't speak for you (I'm immersed in a bunch of "privilege" already), but the actual concrete effect on my civil liberties, even since 9/11, has been exactly zero. Remember we oppose tools such as these based on what the government might be able to do with them to abuse their citizens, just like we field militaries based on what other nations might be able to do. So far your Salafi army example applies in reverse as well: The U.S. government hasn't been running around actually repressing the citizenry. Certainly we should take measures to ensure they can't, but as long as we're worrying about what people might do then I don't see why it's shameful to worry about what Islamists might do as well.