>I enjoy how your response is not to engage with any of Rayiner's actual arguments True, though in precisely the same way his response was not to engage with a

>I enjoy how your response is not to engage with any of Rayiner's actual arguments True, though in precisely the same way his response was not to engage with any of Spooner's actual arguments. I am perfectly willing to yield every one of rayiner's positive claims; they only provide more fodder for the rejection of state legitimacy on normative grounds.