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I meant "sexually assaulted", not simply "assaulted". I didn't omit the word as part of some pro-rape agenda. Anyway, I can't edit it now, unfortunately. Sex
by mratzloff 13y ago
I meant "sexually assaulted", not simply "assaulted". I didn't omit the word as part of some pro-rape agenda. Anyway, I can't edit it now, unfortunately.
Sexual assault generally means "unwanted penetration" (legally), which includes whatever happened here (unclear exactly from the articles I read).
- sliverstorm 13y agoI didn't omit the word as part of some pro-rape agenda I'm not sure it's worth your time to contend this. The debate surrounding rape is very if-you-arent-with-us-youre-against-us, so too often it seems it's already a lost battle.
- detcader 13y agoWhat debate is "surrounding rape" exactly? Are you referring to a debate as to whether rape is ethically permissible or not? If so, where do you hang out?
- mrmekon 13y agohttps://www.google.com/search?q=rape+culture https://www.google.com/search?q=rape+culture
- brazzy 13y agoYou're a perfect example for his point.
- detcader 13y agoI thought the poster was referring to something other than "Men's Rights Advocates"; maybe implicitly trotting out the hackneyed "Tumblr SJ crazies" strawmen
- arrrg 13y agoIn Steubenville, for example, and pretty much anywhere else. Oh, they will not tell you that rape is ethically ok – but they will tell you that something that is rape was nothing of the kind, that she/he asked for it or deserved it or has only herself/himself to blame.
- jessedhillon 13y agoThere is a sizeable group of men on the Internet who don't get it, and are very vociferous about it. Cf, "Men's Rights"
- sliverstorm 13y agoA few things that come to mind: - The concept of "rape culture" - Questions like, "what should be done about the devastating affects on the life of someone accused (but acquitted) of rape?" - Taking into consideration the impact on the accused, questions like "should women who make blatantly false or frivolous claims of rape be held liable?" I don't claim to know the answers to any of these bullet points, but the fact of the matter is they are hotly contested even today- thus, debated.
- detcader 13y agoI was being facetious, trying to get the parent poster to elaborate. I'm quite familiar with the discourse on rape and rape culture.
- sliverstorm 13y agoI am the parent poster.
- detcader 13y agoHaha sorry... been a busy week. I misinterpreted your intent with your original post. Should have indicated that I was being rhetorical/willfully asking the begged question I thought I saw
- droithomme 13y ago"unclear exactly from the articles I read" The participants posted their thoughts during the sex assault in real time to Facebook. It was these threads that Ms. Goddard saved, and which Mr. Lostutter then published (eventually leading to his arrest for 'hacking'). One thread stated that the girl must be dead because "You don't sleep through a wang in the butthole." This suggests that among the various events was someone engaged in anal insertion of their "wang" into the victim. They also bragged about what they themselves termed a "rape" in a separate incident the previous April. Source: http://m.xojane.com/issues/steubenville-rape-verdict-alexandria-goddard http://m.xojane.com/issues/steubenville-rape-verdict-alexand... In the actual plea bargain the two that were sentenced admitted to "digital insertion", which is generally understood to be finger penetration. This seems to understate the extent of the rape however, based on the statements they made during the rape to their Facebook accounts.