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Really? You don't think of information in your Gmail or Google Drive as personal "papers or effects"? Would you be fine with a Google employee reading through y
by kalkin 13y ago
Really? You don't think of information in your Gmail or Google Drive as personal "papers or effects"? Would you be fine with a Google employee reading through your email or your spreadsheets in order to figure out whether you were working on a product that might compete with one of Google's, or maybe because they ran across your profile on a dating site and wanted to check up on you? If so, I think you're unusual.
In a world where important documents are increasingly electronic, and electronic stuff is increasingly routinely backed up, transmitted through, or just stored on remote servers, people's personal papers will be increasingly in the possession of others.
I won't argue that it's impossible to read the Constitution so that it becomes a set of meaningless restrictions on outdated technologies--legal text is never deterministic and always subject to multiple interpretations--but it's certainly not unreasonable for somebody to have "read the document very carefully" and found it more robust and relevant than you do.
- rayiner 13y ago> Would you be fine with a Google employee reading through your email or your spreadsheets in order to figure out whether you were working on a product that might compete with one of Google's, or maybe because they ran across your profile on a dating site and wanted to check up on you? Wouldn't I be pretty stupid if I had a problem with these things, yet still uploaded these documents in clear text to Google's servers where absolutely nothing stopped Google from doing these things? Especially when they tell me point blank that they do indeed sift through the documents (for ad targeting)?
- kalkin 13y agoWe routinely rely on social codes rather than technology to protect our privacy (as well as our property and lives). There's nothing physically preventing my building super from using her key to go into my apartment and look through or steal all my stuff, but I'd be upset if it happened. What's more, 99.9% of Google's users are in no position to evaluate the cryptographic security, or lack thereof, of their documents. Finally, Google has actually said no humans read your email, in response to that Microsoft campaign. So no, hypothetical you wouldn't be stupid, and you are wrong to imply that the millions of Google users who would have a problem with those things are being stupid now. Making a series of decisions that we will at some point regret, perhaps, but your condescension is unwarranted.
- gohrt 13y agoPlease stop spreading misinformation. * Google scans email, not other documents in Drive: http://support.google.com/a/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=60762 http://support.google.com/a/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=60762 * Just as the NSA claims that collecting data doesn't count until a person reads it, Google affirms that humans do not read user data without permission. * Documents are are encrypted in transit, not uploaded in clear text. Google Drive is very much like a safe deposit box in a bank, in terms of user expectation of privacy, and vendor promises. If my secretary holds my briefcase, is the government allowed to seize it without any warrant or judicial approval? Email is slightly more complicated, due to automated ads scanning.
- camus 13y ago> If my secretary holds my briefcase, is the government allowed to seize it without any warrant or judicial approval? if your secretary agrees to give it to them , of course they can.
- gohrt 13y agoAnd if your secretary doesn't agree? When the FBI man gives an order, submission is not consent.