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I don't want any more fluff "no direct access" emails. I just want these questions to be answered with a YES/NO: 1. Is there any way that someone outside of Go

by chime 13y ago

I don't want any more fluff "no direct access" emails. I just want these questions to be answered with a YES/NO: 1. Is there any way that someone outside of Google, can get a copy of an email I sent from my gmail to my own gmail, without a warrant that specifies my exact gmail address? 2. If I delete my Google search history, is there any way for anyone to access this history, with or without a warrant? 3. If I make a Google search from an incognito window, is there any way for Google to connect it to my Google account via my IP address? I know I've done this in the past to prevent spambots from creating fake accounts. Can Google connect these dots if someone sends them an NSL? If the answer to any of this is YES, I am going to have to rethink my entire online life.

badclient 13y ago
You don't need google to answer some of these. 2. If I delete my Google search history, is there any way for anyone to access this history, with or without a warrant? I would think google has historical backups they could refer to to pull out data that you've recently deleted. 3. If I make a Google search from an incognito window, is there any way for Google to connect it to my Google account via my IP address? I know I've done this in the past to prevent spambots from creating fake accounts. Can Google connect these dots if someone sends them an NSL? Why not? You should already assume that google and pretty much any site logs your IP whether you are using incognito or not. You should also assume that any time you log in to gmail your IP is noted. It's extremely basic to do a db search for all gmail accounts that have been accessed by a given IP.
- chime 13y ago
  > I would think google has historical backups they could refer to to pull out data that you've recently deleted. I should have clarified: except for temporary cache or periodic backups. > Why not? You should already assume that google and pretty much any site logs your IP whether you are using incognito or not. You should also assume that any time you log in to gmail your IP is noted. It's extremely basic to do a db search for all gmail accounts that have been accessed by a given IP. I meant if you do not login to Google and do a search in incognito mode, is that history stored? I can delete my history if I'm logged in. But there is no way to delete history by IP. It seems 'safer' to in fact use your logged in Google account to search.
  - Thrymr 13y ago
    > I can delete my history if I'm logged in. At least you can mark it as deleted, and you can't access it anymore. Is it really "deleted"?
yuvadam 13y ago
Look at how governments these days are acting. Can you afford to assume that the answer to all these questions is NO?
muyuu 13y ago
Get a VPN anonymously, pay in Bitcoin and never expect third party companies to adhere to any policy they can potentially break. Anything else involves trust.
- Achshar 13y ago
  That's not the point. The point is if we have to resort to such measures, we have already lost.
  - muyuu 13y ago
    We have AFAICS. Resort to that and fight back from there.
  - deleted 13y ago
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zmmmmm 13y ago
You're asking very broad questions with only negative (ie: unprovable) answers. I don't think any company could ever say there is "no" way anybody can every get your search history after you delete it.They don't immediately run out and shred all the hard drives storing your data every time you delete something. Data would always be recoverable with some extreme amount of effort.
- chime 13y ago
  What about Q1?

by chime 13y ago

badclient 13y ago

You don't need google to answer some of these. 2. If I delete my Google search history, is there any way for anyone to access this history, with or without a warrant? I would think google has historical backups they could refer to to pull out data that you've recently deleted. 3. If I make a Google search from an incognito window, is there any way for Google to connect it to my Google account via my IP address? I know I've done this in the past to prevent spambots from creating fake accounts. Can Google connect these dots if someone sends them an NSL? Why not? You should already assume that google and pretty much any site logs your IP whether you are using incognito or not. You should also assume that any time you log in to gmail your IP is noted. It's extremely basic to do a db search for all gmail accounts that have been accessed by a given IP.

chime 13y ago
> I would think google has historical backups they could refer to to pull out data that you've recently deleted. I should have clarified: except for temporary cache or periodic backups. > Why not? You should already assume that google and pretty much any site logs your IP whether you are using incognito or not. You should also assume that any time you log in to gmail your IP is noted. It's extremely basic to do a db search for all gmail accounts that have been accessed by a given IP. I meant if you do not login to Google and do a search in incognito mode, is that history stored? I can delete my history if I'm logged in. But there is no way to delete history by IP. It seems 'safer' to in fact use your logged in Google account to search.
- Thrymr 13y ago
  > I can delete my history if I'm logged in. At least you can mark it as deleted, and you can't access it anymore. Is it really "deleted"?

yuvadam 13y ago

Look at how governments these days are acting. Can you afford to assume that the answer to all these questions is NO?

muyuu 13y ago

Get a VPN anonymously, pay in Bitcoin and never expect third party companies to adhere to any policy they can potentially break. Anything else involves trust.

Achshar 13y ago
That's not the point. The point is if we have to resort to such measures, we have already lost.
- muyuu 13y ago
  We have AFAICS. Resort to that and fight back from there.
- deleted 13y ago
  [deleted]

zmmmmm 13y ago

You're asking very broad questions with only negative (ie: unprovable) answers. I don't think any company could ever say there is "no" way anybody can every get your search history after you delete it.They don't immediately run out and shred all the hard drives storing your data every time you delete something. Data would always be recoverable with some extreme amount of effort.

chime 13y ago
What about Q1?