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Some more facts about Wayland and client-side window decorations, quoted from here: http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2013/02/client-side-window-decorations

by dlitz 13y ago

Some more facts about Wayland and client-side window decorations, quoted from here: http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2013/02/client-side-window-decorations-and-wayland http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2013/02/client-side-wi... - Nothing in Wayland requires them - QtWayland allows Clients to turn them off - KWin as a Wayland compositor will use server side decorations

jlgreco 13y ago
> "No aliasing when rotating/wobbling windows" Has anyone ever used those things for more than a single day? I honestly thought the current compositing window managers don't even support that novelty stuff anymore.
- coldtea 13y ago
  Rotating? That's something very common.
  - hollerith 13y ago
    Rotating an entire display is very common, but that's not what GP is talking about.
- randallu 13y ago
  In the context that's not the point -- another plus for client-side decorations is that no synchronization is needed between the decorator and client for resizing. Personally I think client-side decorations are far easier to implement reliably and would welcome them becoming default.
- deleted 13y ago
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- nitrogen 13y ago
  I use wobbling windows because it makes my interaction with the system seem more transparent. Rigid windows feel unnatural, but wobbly windows let me become absorbed by my task.
silon3 13y ago
All I want to know what happens if I kill -STOP any client. Doing this under X while clients had various grabs caused problems. Does Wayland fix this?
- ianlevesque 13y ago
  In the article they specifically say it does.
thristian 13y ago
Huzzah! That was pretty much my single biggest disappointment with Wayland. Although I like the visual consistency of server-side decorations, one of my favourite things about X11 is that when an app hangs or otherwise does something weird, the close button in the title-bar still gives me control over the app, I don't have to hope that it's still processing its event loop or bust out some arcane interface like Task Manager and guess what the application's executable is named.

by dlitz 13y ago

jlgreco 13y ago

> "No aliasing when rotating/wobbling windows" Has anyone ever used those things for more than a single day? I honestly thought the current compositing window managers don't even support that novelty stuff anymore.

coldtea 13y ago
Rotating? That's something very common.
- hollerith 13y ago
  Rotating an entire display is very common, but that's not what GP is talking about.
randallu 13y ago
In the context that's not the point -- another plus for client-side decorations is that no synchronization is needed between the decorator and client for resizing. Personally I think client-side decorations are far easier to implement reliably and would welcome them becoming default.
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nitrogen 13y ago
I use wobbling windows because it makes my interaction with the system seem more transparent. Rigid windows feel unnatural, but wobbly windows let me become absorbed by my task.

silon3 13y ago

All I want to know what happens if I kill -STOP any client. Doing this under X while clients had various grabs caused problems. Does Wayland fix this?

ianlevesque 13y ago
In the article they specifically say it does.

thristian 13y ago

Huzzah! That was pretty much my single biggest disappointment with Wayland. Although I like the visual consistency of server-side decorations, one of my favourite things about X11 is that when an app hangs or otherwise does something weird, the close button in the title-bar still gives me control over the app, I don't have to hope that it's still processing its event loop or bust out some arcane interface like Task Manager and guess what the application's executable is named.