How far will you go with this? What if we discovered that raping the parent/child of the suspect in front of them could save even more lives? I mean, you make

How far will you go with this? What if we discovered that raping the parent/child of the suspect in front of them could save even more lives? I mean, you make a good point that it torture doesn't work (well, it actually does work but only for it's original purpose: to get people to claim they did something that we need them to claim they did, even if they didn't), but personally I don't want to know if it works or not because it's not valid no matter how effective.