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> Call him crazy now, but in 2023 you'll look back at what he said now, and you'll see how it's all right You don't have to wait until 2023. The linked postin
by pwg 13y ago
> Call him crazy now, but in 2023 you'll look back at what he said now, and you'll see how it's all right
You don't have to wait until 2023. The linked posting has a copyright date of 2001, and the wording of the last few paragraphs implies it was written late in 2001 a few months after 9/11.
And in the middle, is this sentence:
"What I am worried about is massive surveillance of all aspects of life: of our phone calls, of our email, and of our physical movements."
Which we have all now learned over the last few days is actually what has been happening, for far longer than anyone realized.
So you only have to look at this article with what we know today, to realize how correct his warnings actually were/are.
- astrodust 13y ago> Which we have all now learned over the last few days is actually what has been happening, for far longer than anyone realized. Ever since Carnivore (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnivore_(software) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnivore_(software)) was uncovered, it's been obvious that a lot is going on behind the scenes. When the massive wire-tapping operation at AT&T (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_641A http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_641A) was brought to light, the scale and pervasiveness of this became clear. This was years ago. It's been safe to assume that all telephone conversations, text messages, instant messages, VOIP calls, email traffic, and all unencrypted web traffic is or could be subject to inspection, capture, and archiving. If it's not encrypted, it can be captured. If it is encrypted, it might be possible to decrypt it, you'll probably never know. Facebook has long been suspected of being partially owned and/or controlled by the CIA (http://www.globalresearch.ca/facebook-the-cia-conspiracy/12685 http://www.globalresearch.ca/facebook-the-cia-conspiracy/126...), and who could blame the CIA for taking an interest in such a valuable dataset. It's not clear if this is true, but if you're truly surprised that it's the case, you're far more of an optimist than I am. The only thing surprising about this is that it leaked out, not that it was happening in the first place.
- theatraine 13y agoThe Onion's parody on Facebook's CIA ownership is now sounding eerily accurate. For those who haven't seen it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqggW08BWO0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqggW08BWO0
- adwf 13y agoYes, the Onion can be oddly prescient at times. This has always been the scariest for me: http://www.theonion.com/articles/bush-our-long-national-nightmare-of-peace-and-pros,464/ http://www.theonion.com/articles/bush-our-long-national-nigh...;
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- dllthomas 13y agoI always preferred http://www.theonion.com/articles/freedoms-curtailed-in-defense-of-liberty,213/ http://www.theonion.com/articles/freedoms-curtailed-in-defen...;
- __--__ 13y agoIf I could give you more than one upvote, I would. This was EXACTLY my reaction - "Didn't this exact same thing happen 7 years ago? Complete with half the internet losing their mind? What am I missing?" Once the 2 minutes hate is over, nothing will come of this. We'll repeat it again in another 7 years.
- rhizome 13y agoI would venture to say that most of the dismissive criticism I've read regarding him hinges on his having BO or idiosyncratic speech patterns or similar surface attributes.
- leephillips 13y agoI don't know anything about his hygiene and I don't care. When he's right, as here, I applaud him, and when he's wrong I call him out: http://lee-phillips.org/StallmanOnFinkelstein.html http://lee-phillips.org/StallmanOnFinkelstein.html
- zwischenzug 13y agoAnyone who grew up watching The Prisoner or reading Orwell would know that this level of surveillance enabled by technology was foreseen by other kinds of visionaries... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_prisoner http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_prisoner ...and Orwell's vision exploited by Steve Jobs for commercial ends :)
- knowaveragejoe 13y agofwiw, anyone paying attention to infosec in the last decade has known this is going on.
- icebraining 13y agoBut this post is more than a decade old.