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I don't see how does it provide any of that. This is a server administrator, isn't it? like old school Webmin for instance?

by muyuu 13y ago

jcook818 13y ago
It gives you the same abilities as Webmin, but it is/will be so much more. No need to fiddle around with config files (like Webmin) but at the same time it presents the configurations in ways that non-sysadmins might hope to understand. Installing and configuring webapps like Wordpress/Drupal/ownCloud and others with one click. Managing websites and emails in an intuitive and "easy" way. Webmin is great, but if you aren't a Linux sysadmin it doesn't really make hosting things any easier. Think of arkOS/Genesis as Webmin but with a better design, much easier to use and a more modular style of operation. It's kinda hard to explain because the plugins I am referring to are still works-in-progress. But as a longtime Webmin user, I can assure you that it goes above and beyond what Webmin does. It's actually a lot closer to Zentyal, but targeted for personal use, and bringing in many more improvements.
- muyuu 13y ago
  I don't think complex installs full of options can really be reduced to a single click (without compromising security massively). "Think of arkOS/Genesis as Webmin but with a better design, much easier to use and a more modular style of operation." Ok that's a good goal. Although right now it doesn't seem to cover even a small fraction of what Webmin does. And even if it did, the "de-cloud everything" claim seems far-fetched from what a super-duper-better-Webmin would really do. Something like providing email in a local server involves a whole lot more than keeping an email daemon running. I'm sceptical that you can make even the network set-up "one click", or SSL tunnelling, or actual encryption which would be essential for something like that. Each of these are on their own massive, unsolved problems. Anyway, I will reserve judgement for later. The design looks good, that's all I can say at this point.

I don't see how does it provide any of that. This is a server administrator, isn't it? like old school Webmin for instance?

by muyuu 13y ago

I don't see how does it provide any of that. This is a server administrator, isn't it? like old school Webmin for instance?

jcook818 13y ago

It gives you the same abilities as Webmin, but it is/will be so much more. No need to fiddle around with config files (like Webmin) but at the same time it presents the configurations in ways that non-sysadmins might hope to understand. Installing and configuring webapps like Wordpress/Drupal/ownCloud and others with one click. Managing websites and emails in an intuitive and "easy" way. Webmin is great, but if you aren't a Linux sysadmin it doesn't really make hosting things any easier. Think of arkOS/Genesis as Webmin but with a better design, much easier to use and a more modular style of operation. It's kinda hard to explain because the plugins I am referring to are still works-in-progress. But as a longtime Webmin user, I can assure you that it goes above and beyond what Webmin does. It's actually a lot closer to Zentyal, but targeted for personal use, and bringing in many more improvements.

muyuu 13y ago
I don't think complex installs full of options can really be reduced to a single click (without compromising security massively). "Think of arkOS/Genesis as Webmin but with a better design, much easier to use and a more modular style of operation." Ok that's a good goal. Although right now it doesn't seem to cover even a small fraction of what Webmin does. And even if it did, the "de-cloud everything" claim seems far-fetched from what a super-duper-better-Webmin would really do. Something like providing email in a local server involves a whole lot more than keeping an email daemon running. I'm sceptical that you can make even the network set-up "one click", or SSL tunnelling, or actual encryption which would be essential for something like that. Each of these are on their own massive, unsolved problems. Anyway, I will reserve judgement for later. The design looks good, that's all I can say at this point.