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I honestly fail to see how monitoring telecommunication metadata is an infringement of rights. The government has not stopped you from taking any action. I agre

I honestly fail to see how monitoring telecommunication metadata is an infringement of rights. The government has not stopped you from taking any action. I agree that it COULD be used for evil, but that's not a very convincing argument. Many technologies we enjoy and rely on enable evil acts.

swombat 13y ago
You merely have a failure of imagination. Try reading some books, like 1984, Animal Farm, Fahrenheit 451 and Brave New World, for your education.
- daughart 13y ago
  These books don't tell me how the government analyzing communication metadata is an infringement of rights. "Imagine a world where the government assigns you a number when you are born. Where you have to register with the government when you turn 18. Where each year you must report detailed financial information to the government. It's like 1984!"
  - swombat 13y ago
    Read this, then: http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/1fv4r6/i_believe_the_government_should_be_allowed_to/caeb3pl?context=3 http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/1fv4r6/i_belie...
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deelowe 13y ago
I guess you missed the recent news where a governor was exposed for cheating on his wife due to data collected using these systems? Or, what about the case of qwest where the CEO was coincidentally convicted of insider trading after refusing to comply with this BS? I have no issue with the government doing analysis and collecting data. I do take issue with them using it for BS political agendas and illegally compelling private companies to participate. And, to be honest, the mere fact that they are allowed to collect this sort of stuff will lead to the other. So, I think it's perfectly reasonable to simply require more transparency and approval in the first place to remove the temptation.

swombat 13y ago

You merely have a failure of imagination. Try reading some books, like 1984, Animal Farm, Fahrenheit 451 and Brave New World, for your education.

daughart 13y ago
These books don't tell me how the government analyzing communication metadata is an infringement of rights. "Imagine a world where the government assigns you a number when you are born. Where you have to register with the government when you turn 18. Where each year you must report detailed financial information to the government. It's like 1984!"
- swombat 13y ago
  Read this, then: http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/1fv4r6/i_believe_the_government_should_be_allowed_to/caeb3pl?context=3 http://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/comments/1fv4r6/i_belie...
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deelowe 13y ago

I guess you missed the recent news where a governor was exposed for cheating on his wife due to data collected using these systems? Or, what about the case of qwest where the CEO was coincidentally convicted of insider trading after refusing to comply with this BS? I have no issue with the government doing analysis and collecting data. I do take issue with them using it for BS political agendas and illegally compelling private companies to participate. And, to be honest, the mere fact that they are allowed to collect this sort of stuff will lead to the other. So, I think it's perfectly reasonable to simply require more transparency and approval in the first place to remove the temptation.