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And it would have somehow been worse if they'd paid you? Not everyone has the luxury to work an unpaid internship, so if they're necessary (or even just helpfu

And it would have somehow been worse if they'd paid you? Not everyone has the luxury to work an unpaid internship, so if they're necessary (or even just helpful) to get into a field that's actually a pretty huge problem.

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- DrJokepu 13y ago
  Is it possible that there was someone else who was more talented, competent or dedicated than you and deserved that internship even more than you but simply couldn't afford working for free? I'm not making a value judgement here, I'm just pointing out the fact that free internships are not necessarily compatible with meritocracy.
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- ryguytilidie 13y ago
  Couldn't you have maybe demonstrated why you were valuable while getting paid minimum wage? The situation you are describing encourages companies not to take risks EVER while forcing their employees to take a risk. The fact that you benefitted from this is irrelevant. Perhaps try looking outside of just your own specific situation and at the many other situations that might come from a world where unpaid internships are legal, or the norm.
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    - ryguytilidie 13y ago
      Apprenticeships and unpaid internships are two completely different things. Apprenticeships are completely common in modern society and are, in fact, paid. So no, that is a rock bottom terrible example...
- amputect 13y ago
  The problem is that these companies are not bringing in scrappy 17-year-olds with a hoop dreams, they're bringing college-educated professionals, and then refusing to actually pay them in exchange for producing valuable work. This is creating yet another barrier to professional entry for people who weren't born rich. In addition to the (skyrocketing) expense of college, they now have to endure an indefinite amount of indentured servitude in exchange for possibly eventually getting paid? Do we now expect new grads to work a two jobs once they graduate? One for what they went to college for, and a second job pumping gas or waiting tables to support them while they are working their primary job? And that sounds good to you?
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    - amputect 13y ago
      You were by your own admission 17, which implies (since you were a minor) that you were living with relatives and debt free. Can you think of any important differences between a 17-year-old with a support net (even a shitty one) working for free, and a college educated adult with debt?
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DrJokepu 13y ago
Is it possible that there was someone else who was more talented, competent or dedicated than you and deserved that internship even more than you but simply couldn't afford working for free? I'm not making a value judgement here, I'm just pointing out the fact that free internships are not necessarily compatible with meritocracy.
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ryguytilidie 13y ago
Couldn't you have maybe demonstrated why you were valuable while getting paid minimum wage? The situation you are describing encourages companies not to take risks EVER while forcing their employees to take a risk. The fact that you benefitted from this is irrelevant. Perhaps try looking outside of just your own specific situation and at the many other situations that might come from a world where unpaid internships are legal, or the norm.
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  - ryguytilidie 13y ago
    Apprenticeships and unpaid internships are two completely different things. Apprenticeships are completely common in modern society and are, in fact, paid. So no, that is a rock bottom terrible example...
amputect 13y ago
The problem is that these companies are not bringing in scrappy 17-year-olds with a hoop dreams, they're bringing college-educated professionals, and then refusing to actually pay them in exchange for producing valuable work. This is creating yet another barrier to professional entry for people who weren't born rich. In addition to the (skyrocketing) expense of college, they now have to endure an indefinite amount of indentured servitude in exchange for possibly eventually getting paid? Do we now expect new grads to work a two jobs once they graduate? One for what they went to college for, and a second job pumping gas or waiting tables to support them while they are working their primary job? And that sounds good to you?
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  - amputect 13y ago
    You were by your own admission 17, which implies (since you were a minor) that you were living with relatives and debt free. Can you think of any important differences between a 17-year-old with a support net (even a shitty one) working for free, and a college educated adult with debt?
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