> I think we should cut "incidental start-ups" some slack for a while Agree. I'm just not sure we're taking the "effect" of a start up into consideration when

> I think we should cut "incidental start-ups" some slack for a while Agree. I'm just not sure we're taking the "effect" of a start up into consideration when we put them up on pedestals. Perhaps there isn't interest in the "effect", which is what I was alluding to.