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> How many people in the US have ever been killed as a result of a terrorist attack? Over all time the number is on the order of a few thousand. Maybe because

> How many people in the US have ever been killed as a result of a terrorist attack? Over all time the number is on the order of a few thousand. Maybe because they're doing a much more effective job than we realize. Also I don't think you accounted for Pearl Harbor. > And finally, shouldn't we consider that people like Ron Paul have a point, that a lot of the hatred for the US... I think this is common misconception. I do not think the vast majority of the world hates the US. I'd be curious to see facts about this.

mindcrime 13y ago
Maybe because they're doing a much more effective job than we realize. Maybe. Unfortunately there's no real way to say. I mean, if I offer you a "tiger proof rock" and say that it protects against tiger attacks, will you accept as evidence, the fact that I've never been attacked by a tiger? Also I don't think you accounted for Pearl Harbor. No, I didn't. I don't think most people put that under "terrorist attack", as it was an overt action by an organized nation-state as part of an active military strategy. The Japanese weren't just trying to "sow terror", it was a tactical objective to weaken the US Navy so they wouldn't be able to impede Japanese objectives in the Pacific during WWII. I do not think the vast majority of the world hates the US. I'd be curious to see facts about this. I don't think the argument is that the majority of the world hates us (although it might be fair to say that a majority aren't terribly fond of us), but rather that - of the groups which are actively engaging in terrorist attacks directed out way - those groups are motivated by our foreign policy. I admit this view is not without controversy.
- chimeracoder 13y ago
  > No, I didn't. I don't think most people put that under "terrorist attack", as it was an overt action by an organized nation-state as part of an active military strategy. Also, Hawaii at the time was not even a state. The US actually hasn't fought a war on it's own soil since 1812. (It HAS had numerous terrorist attacks on foreign soil, however - the Beirut barracks bombings in 1983 would be but one example. In fact, 9/11 was not really an isolated incident, but the next progression in a number of terrorist attacks against the US. It just happened to be the biggest one and the first one on US soil (not counting the failed 1993 WTC bombing)).

mindcrime 13y ago

Maybe because they're doing a much more effective job than we realize. Maybe. Unfortunately there's no real way to say. I mean, if I offer you a "tiger proof rock" and say that it protects against tiger attacks, will you accept as evidence, the fact that I've never been attacked by a tiger? Also I don't think you accounted for Pearl Harbor. No, I didn't. I don't think most people put that under "terrorist attack", as it was an overt action by an organized nation-state as part of an active military strategy. The Japanese weren't just trying to "sow terror", it was a tactical objective to weaken the US Navy so they wouldn't be able to impede Japanese objectives in the Pacific during WWII. I do not think the vast majority of the world hates the US. I'd be curious to see facts about this. I don't think the argument is that the majority of the world hates us (although it might be fair to say that a majority aren't terribly fond of us), but rather that - of the groups which are actively engaging in terrorist attacks directed out way - those groups are motivated by our foreign policy. I admit this view is not without controversy.

chimeracoder 13y ago
> No, I didn't. I don't think most people put that under "terrorist attack", as it was an overt action by an organized nation-state as part of an active military strategy. Also, Hawaii at the time was not even a state. The US actually hasn't fought a war on it's own soil since 1812. (It HAS had numerous terrorist attacks on foreign soil, however - the Beirut barracks bombings in 1983 would be but one example. In fact, 9/11 was not really an isolated incident, but the next progression in a number of terrorist attacks against the US. It just happened to be the biggest one and the first one on US soil (not counting the failed 1993 WTC bombing)).