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As long as its opt-in then I am all for giving parents the choice to filter their networks, but as soon as it becomes opt-out I will be very angry about it.
by Zariel 13y ago
As long as its opt-in then I am all for giving parents the choice to filter their networks, but as soon as it becomes opt-out I will be very angry about it.
- retube 13y agowhy?
- venomsnake 13y agoBecause an ISP should be dumb pipe. They should only provide connectivity and not mess with people connections. Opt in is enabling. Opt out is intrusion.
- KJBweb 13y agoHere here, meddling with SMTP connections to my own servers one minute so to ensure they get sent via their own (and often blacklisted) servers, the next they're hijacking DNS and taking further measures to filter and control what I can and can't see. It's infuriating!
- andyhmltn 13y ago>Here here, meddling with SMTP connections to my own servers one minute I'm unaware of that, but that's a fair point. >the next they're hijacking DNS and taking further measures to filter and control what I can and can't see. It's infuriating! That's the thing: They aren't. It would only happen if you asked for it. They aren't filtering anything you don't want filtered.
- anExcitedBeast 13y agoAnd you think that's still going to be the case in five years?
- andyhmltn 13y agoYes
- anExcitedBeast 13y agoYou and I should get together and make a bet. If my rights are going to be stripped away I may as well profit.
- retube 13y agoyou cannot broadcast what you want on radio or television, you cannot print what you like in newspapers or magazines - there are rules and regulations governing content. why should the internet be any different?
- workbench 13y agoBecause it isn't and shouldn't be controlled by any one governments ideas of what is right and wrong.
- Fuxy 13y agoThe internet is dead folks the only way it will ever be free is if we find a way of transmission of data that cannot be modified mid transit or blocked. Otherwise you will eventually only be able to read what other people want you to read.
- jiggy2011 13y agoSSL can prevent modification mid transit, of course you can still technically be MITMd if your ISP gets issued a cert which is valid for every domain but this would be detectable. You can circumvent blocking with proxies/VPN, your ISP would have to block all proxy/VPN services to prevent this.
- venomsnake 13y agoBut I can say what I want on the telephone and write it in a mail. Internet is point to point bi-directional communication. It is not broadcasting.
- retube 13y agoUmm.. that is precisely what it is! TCP/IP maybe directionally agnostic, but application layer protocols vary. HTTP for example is very much a broadcast protocol.
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- robotmay 13y agoBecause it essentially results in a list of people who say "Yes, I watch pornography".
- ownagefool 13y agoThere was a survey a few years ago in the UK where over like 70% (maybe 80%) of parents were in favour of having access to porn via their internet connection. The results were slightly lower with those who didn't have children, presumably because they thought they'd change their minds after having kids. Point being, I'm pretty sure the country isn't in favour of this. It's being thrust upon us because of two party system and a political class that seems to intent on listening to moral crusades. One can only hope Scotland gets a clue in 2014 but I'm not really that hopeful. :(
- anExcitedBeast 13y agoWhat's the story here? What can Scotland do in 2014?
- Bosence 13y agoThe Scottish independence referendum is in 2014.
- lucian1900 13y agoI'm not ok about opt-in either. If the router does filtering, fine. The ISP's network should not be capable of filtering.