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Here's the weasl-ey straw man (sort of): "..some thinkers cling to the idea that IQ measures an inborn intelligence that transcends culture and schooling. If t
by netcan 13y ago
Here's the weasl-ey straw man (sort of):
"..some thinkers cling to the idea that IQ measures an inborn intelligence that transcends culture and schooling. If that's true, one would expect that the most abstract, "culture free" elements of IQ testing wouldn't be subject to."
The evidence supports common sense on the idea that environmental factors influence IQ (and intelligence) substantially. I doubt many "thinkers" disagree.
- Ygg2 13y agoThe evidence also support that IQ test are really hard to do correctly. Some IQ test are better done by urban vs rural children and vice versa and it comes to what knowledge does IQ test verify and what method does it use. It's not as easy as saying its environment. Test makers suck at thinking outside their head and disabling their own knowledge expectations and biases.
- einhverfr 13y agoI would question the premise actually that intelligence can be represented adequately by a single scalar quantity. a much better approach would be an n-dimensional vector. The problem you get with a scalar measurement is that you end up with weighing one component of intelligence against another. IQ tests don't spend all questions measuring the same exact skills of course, so you have to have a way of weighing one skill against another. That weight itself can only be culturally derived, and therefore IQ tests in their current form have no hope in measuring innate abilities on an apples to apples basis because in the end we are comparing apples to melons.[1] [1] Hats off to you if you got the pun, which will only be found through careful study, knowledge, and reading slowly.
- Ygg2 13y agoYou mean the weighting apples vs melons? If so, the box was a dead giveaway.
- einhverfr 13y agoThe pun is two-fold and juxtaposes Modern English and Classical Greek, which is part of what makes it relevant to my point ;-)
- einhverfr 13y agoTo explain, "melon" means "Apple" in Greek. So you can either compare two different languages, or two different fruit but you can't do both at the same time ;-)
- Ygg2 13y agoSadly I was never good with Ancient Greek or latin for that matter.