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Well, then I'll just expand on my previous comment to add racial groups to the cultural/religious groups that you should probably re-examine your views on if ev

by jbooth 13y ago

Well, then I'll just expand on my previous comment to add racial groups to the cultural/religious groups that you should probably re-examine your views on if everybody finds them offensive.

drzaiusapelord 13y ago
Not too long ago, everyone thought inter-racial marriage was offensive. I think basing your morality on "what everyone thinks right now" is foolish at best.
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  - jiggy2011 13y ago
    That same argument cuts both ways, imagine you live in a place where racist and anti-gay sentiment is the norm. In such a place you might be concerned about making a comment that could be construed as support for gay marriage or racial equality as you might be ridiculed or shunned in some way by your community. In such a situation would it be fair to say that the person in question should necessarily adjust their views to conform?
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      - jiggy2011 13y ago
        Disagree, lots of people hold opinions on things that they haven't really thought much about so those views are likely to be similar simply because by virtue of them consuming similar news sources and echo chambering their views amongst each other. There aren't really distinct groups of "racist" or "liberal on race" , this is an over simplification. There are in fact many separate and overlapping issues which relate to race and it is possible to have differing opinions on any or all of them. It is certainly worth re-evaluating your position if you have new information or a good argument to consider, but not simply because category X of people mostly disagree with you.
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        jiggy2011 13y ago
        I'm responding mainly to this "Well, then I'll just expand on my previous comment to add racial groups to the cultural/religious groups that you should probably re-examine your views on if everybody finds them offensive." The guy upthread related an anecdote as an example of where people might engage in doublethink, the example included a guy who was a muslim because that is who he happened to have the conversation with. He then stated that he is hesitant to use muslims as an example because that tends to bring with it all kinds of personal biases. Then you made the comment quoted above, which is what I am mainly referring too. You talk about "the liberal coast of america" as if it is some defining oracle of truth and if you disagree with it, then you are wrong.
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        CatMtKing 13y ago
        My thoughts exactly, though it doesn't seem like the fellow you're arguing with is grepping it.

by jbooth 13y ago

Well, then I'll just expand on my previous comment to add racial groups to the cultural/religious groups that you should probably re-examine your views on if everybody finds them offensive.

drzaiusapelord 13y ago

Not too long ago, everyone thought inter-racial marriage was offensive. I think basing your morality on "what everyone thinks right now" is foolish at best.

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- jiggy2011 13y ago
  That same argument cuts both ways, imagine you live in a place where racist and anti-gay sentiment is the norm. In such a place you might be concerned about making a comment that could be construed as support for gay marriage or racial equality as you might be ridiculed or shunned in some way by your community. In such a situation would it be fair to say that the person in question should necessarily adjust their views to conform?
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    - jiggy2011 13y ago
      Disagree, lots of people hold opinions on things that they haven't really thought much about so those views are likely to be similar simply because by virtue of them consuming similar news sources and echo chambering their views amongst each other. There aren't really distinct groups of "racist" or "liberal on race" , this is an over simplification. There are in fact many separate and overlapping issues which relate to race and it is possible to have differing opinions on any or all of them. It is certainly worth re-evaluating your position if you have new information or a good argument to consider, but not simply because category X of people mostly disagree with you.
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        jiggy2011 13y ago
        I'm responding mainly to this "Well, then I'll just expand on my previous comment to add racial groups to the cultural/religious groups that you should probably re-examine your views on if everybody finds them offensive." The guy upthread related an anecdote as an example of where people might engage in doublethink, the example included a guy who was a muslim because that is who he happened to have the conversation with. He then stated that he is hesitant to use muslims as an example because that tends to bring with it all kinds of personal biases. Then you made the comment quoted above, which is what I am mainly referring too. You talk about "the liberal coast of america" as if it is some defining oracle of truth and if you disagree with it, then you are wrong.
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        CatMtKing 13y ago
        My thoughts exactly, though it doesn't seem like the fellow you're arguing with is grepping it.