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> I haven't really been using Firefox all that much mainly due to how busy the interface is Firefox UI is as busy as you make it[1]. It's very customizable wit

> I haven't really been using Firefox all that much mainly due to how busy the interface is Firefox UI is as busy as you make it[1]. It's very customizable without much effort. Not that it couldn't use a refresh but I quite like it the way it is. EDIT: The commenters below get it right. Tree Style Tab[2] add-on is responsible for the tabs and you can remove the clutter by right-clicking the refresh button for example, choosing "customize..." from the context menu and just dragging all the unused stuff away into the box (a window that will appear). Toolbars can be hidden from View → Toolbars. Enabling integration with Ubuntu also thins it a bit. [1] http://i.imgur.com/zdIy63Q.png http://i.imgur.com/zdIy63Q.png [2] https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-tab/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-ta...

srijan4 13y ago
What are you using for those side tabs?
- yohui 13y ago
  Probably 'Tree Style Tab': https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-tab/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-ta...
- cpeterso 13y ago
  Or the Vertical Tabs add-on: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/vertical-tabs/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/vertical-tabs...
imalolz 13y ago
Just saw your post after posting myself. Please share how you got rid of some of the clutter.
- jasondenizac 13y ago
  Menu > Customize. This puts the chrome in "edit" mode where you can add and remove UI elements.
loupeabody 13y ago
Oh snap, now that's a UI overhaul. How's that tab interface working out? At a glance I can imagine how much more effective it is at displaying a large number of tabs in the same window. In fact, I'm finding it quite brilliant. The web at large takes advantage of vertical scrolling, so why shouldn't browsers? All of my bookmarks are already arranged in vertical lists. Even when faced with the input procedure of navigating my cursor to a browser tab, vertically stacked tabs have a clear advantage (for trackpad/thinkpad nipple users like myself): To move my cursor up and down (again, with a trackpad) all I have to do is bend a finger at the knuckle. When moving the cursor a substantial distance left or right, I torque my whole wrist slightly or reposition it entirely. Maybe that's splitting hairs... I'm rather starry-eyed at the moment seeing your Firefox interface. Perhaps I'm missing some disadvantages?
- spindritf 13y ago
  > Perhaps I'm missing some disadvantages? Drag and drop sometimes stops working and you lose the ability to move those tabs around (change their order). Some pages will be too wide, at least on a small screen like mine, forcing you to scroll horizontally. Also, after every (major) update you need to (re)move the new buttons. But those are all very minor. Otherwise, it's smooth sailing.
  - msujaws 13y ago
    When was the last major update where buttons got re-added? Are you speaking from actual experience or just postulating?
    - gluxon 13y ago
      Firefox 4-20 hasn't had any toolbar button changes. You really can't count third-party addons as something that Mozilla changes to the toolbar.
    - spindritf 13y ago
      > When was the last major update where buttons got re-added? Not so much re-added as just added. The download button (arrow) for example was added in Firefox 20. Add-ons also tend to insert their buttons. Or even reactivate the add-ons bar. But it takes seconds to fix.
seany 13y ago
vertical tabs is one of the main reasons I still use FF as my primary browser.
jvm 13y ago
Indeed, I find vimperator's interface exceedingly minimal.[1] [1] http://imgur.com/MkGwZZ5 http://imgur.com/MkGwZZ5
- q_revert 13y ago
  if you enjoy vimperator I suspect you'll appreciate the tree style tabs mentioned above.. also if you `:set tabnumbers` you can easily switch between numbered tabs, which can be very useful http://i.imgur.com/3x8nF0J.png http://i.imgur.com/3x8nF0J.png
dantiberian 13y ago
> Firefox UI is as busy as you make it For almost all Firefox users, the UI is as busy as Mozilla makes it.
- baby 13y ago
  1. I don't believe Firefox UI is busy 2. We always had those kind of "busy" UI since IE, Netscape, Opera and Firefox. 3. Chrome comes around, makes a very simplistic UI and now many people assume that it's the only way. IMO Chrome is just too simplistic, It's beautiful yes but is it efficient? For example, the first thing I do when I install Firefox on a machine is to display the menu bar. And I think it's a shame there is no more status bar as well.
  - copypasteweb 13y ago
    >it's a shame there is no more status bar as well https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/status-4-evar/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/status-4-evar...
    - PommeDeTerre 13y ago
      This is one of the most shameful things to have happened to Firefox. The status bar is core functionality. It should be included by default, and it should be enabled by default. Now, if they really felt the need to play design games with the UI, they could have at least disabled the status bar by default, and allowed it to be quickly re-enabled (like can be done for the menus). Forcing users to go through the hassle of installing an extension just to get back core functionality is truly unjustifiable and very shameful.
    - baby 13y ago
      Thanks, just installed it, working wonders!
  - progrock 13y ago
    Beautiful! Hardly. Just de-cluttered on the face of things. Trying to select an encoding is about as difficult as pinning the tail on the donkey.

srijan4 13y ago

What are you using for those side tabs?

yohui 13y ago
Probably 'Tree Style Tab': https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-tab/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-ta...
cpeterso 13y ago
Or the Vertical Tabs add-on: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/vertical-tabs/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/vertical-tabs...

imalolz 13y ago

Just saw your post after posting myself. Please share how you got rid of some of the clutter.

jasondenizac 13y ago
Menu > Customize. This puts the chrome in "edit" mode where you can add and remove UI elements.

loupeabody 13y ago

Oh snap, now that's a UI overhaul. How's that tab interface working out? At a glance I can imagine how much more effective it is at displaying a large number of tabs in the same window. In fact, I'm finding it quite brilliant. The web at large takes advantage of vertical scrolling, so why shouldn't browsers? All of my bookmarks are already arranged in vertical lists. Even when faced with the input procedure of navigating my cursor to a browser tab, vertically stacked tabs have a clear advantage (for trackpad/thinkpad nipple users like myself): To move my cursor up and down (again, with a trackpad) all I have to do is bend a finger at the knuckle. When moving the cursor a substantial distance left or right, I torque my whole wrist slightly or reposition it entirely. Maybe that's splitting hairs... I'm rather starry-eyed at the moment seeing your Firefox interface. Perhaps I'm missing some disadvantages?

spindritf 13y ago
> Perhaps I'm missing some disadvantages? Drag and drop sometimes stops working and you lose the ability to move those tabs around (change their order). Some pages will be too wide, at least on a small screen like mine, forcing you to scroll horizontally. Also, after every (major) update you need to (re)move the new buttons. But those are all very minor. Otherwise, it's smooth sailing.
- msujaws 13y ago
  When was the last major update where buttons got re-added? Are you speaking from actual experience or just postulating?
  - gluxon 13y ago
    Firefox 4-20 hasn't had any toolbar button changes. You really can't count third-party addons as something that Mozilla changes to the toolbar.
  - spindritf 13y ago
    > When was the last major update where buttons got re-added? Not so much re-added as just added. The download button (arrow) for example was added in Firefox 20. Add-ons also tend to insert their buttons. Or even reactivate the add-ons bar. But it takes seconds to fix.

seany 13y ago

vertical tabs is one of the main reasons I still use FF as my primary browser.

jvm 13y ago

Indeed, I find vimperator's interface exceedingly minimal.[1] [1] http://imgur.com/MkGwZZ5 http://imgur.com/MkGwZZ5

q_revert 13y ago
if you enjoy vimperator I suspect you'll appreciate the tree style tabs mentioned above.. also if you `:set tabnumbers` you can easily switch between numbered tabs, which can be very useful http://i.imgur.com/3x8nF0J.png http://i.imgur.com/3x8nF0J.png

dantiberian 13y ago

> Firefox UI is as busy as you make it For almost all Firefox users, the UI is as busy as Mozilla makes it.

baby 13y ago
1. I don't believe Firefox UI is busy 2. We always had those kind of "busy" UI since IE, Netscape, Opera and Firefox. 3. Chrome comes around, makes a very simplistic UI and now many people assume that it's the only way. IMO Chrome is just too simplistic, It's beautiful yes but is it efficient? For example, the first thing I do when I install Firefox on a machine is to display the menu bar. And I think it's a shame there is no more status bar as well.
- copypasteweb 13y ago
  >it's a shame there is no more status bar as well https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/status-4-evar/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/status-4-evar...
  - PommeDeTerre 13y ago
    This is one of the most shameful things to have happened to Firefox. The status bar is core functionality. It should be included by default, and it should be enabled by default. Now, if they really felt the need to play design games with the UI, they could have at least disabled the status bar by default, and allowed it to be quickly re-enabled (like can be done for the menus). Forcing users to go through the hassle of installing an extension just to get back core functionality is truly unjustifiable and very shameful.
  - baby 13y ago
    Thanks, just installed it, working wonders!
- progrock 13y ago
  Beautiful! Hardly. Just de-cluttered on the face of things. Trying to select an encoding is about as difficult as pinning the tail on the donkey.