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Obligatory snark: That intro video had a serious case of vocal fry. While looking at all this, I was mostly considering the potential privacy implications. The

by skore 13y ago

Obligatory snark: That intro video had a serious case of vocal fry. While looking at all this, I was mostly considering the potential privacy implications. Then again, with the amount of stuff we push online these days, it's seems somewhat comical to even consider it. That alone is weird. Then I read up on it and realized that secrecy of correspondence isn't really that much of an established principle internationally as I have been accustomed to, living in Germany. (It seems like France even had the death penalty on it for a while.) Still - Paying a service 5 bucks a month to invade your privacy* just seems a little more real when it is about actual stuff, not just things that are bits and bytes anyways. *And don't tell me it won't happen. It will always happen. Somebody other than you will have or get access to that data.

aasarava 13y ago
Any reason your snark has to be obligatory? Especially since it's about a pedantic issue with the video about the service rather than the service itself? The thing is, you've actually got something interesting to say -- we should certainly consider the privacy implications, and whether this could change limits on government intrusion into your correspondence -- but you buried the lead and presented it in a negative way for no clear reason other than you were feeling like being snarky toward someone's hard work.
- Domenic_S 13y ago
  > buried the lead More snark: it's "buried the lede".
  - michaelmior 13y ago
    I believe "lead" is also acceptable spelling.
    - Domenic_S 13y ago
      I did time at a startup for journalists so this is burned in my skull. Lede is journalism jargon, and "burying the lede" is a phrase borrowed from journalism. > Journalistic ledes emphasize grabbing the attention of the reader. In journalism, the failure to mention the most important, interesting or attention-grabbing elements of a story in the first paragraph is sometimes called "burying the lede". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead_paragraph http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead_paragraph > Bury the lead sort of works, but bury the lede is the conventional spelling of this expression. http://grammarist.com/usage/lead-lede/ http://grammarist.com/usage/lead-lede/ "Lede" makes a distinction between lead (leed) and lead (pb/led).
- wwwarhawk 13y ago
  Hahaha. This, ladies and gentlemen, is the most typical HN user I've ever seen. Seriously, that gave me a good laugh.
- skore 13y ago
  Conversely, you restate the typical inability to look beyond a minor layer of snark for the benefit of not even getting to the interesting points. And yes, I've been there myself multiple times. What I'm trying to say is - both things really aren't so relevant that we should obsess about them. They're there, we cannot help ourselves, let's get on with things.
Avshalom 13y ago
>And don't tell me it won't happen. It will always happen. Somebody other than you will have or get access to that data. Hell that's the sales pitch: give us your keys so we can steal your mail. Like I get the idea and it's solid, but christ that's a level of trust I don't have. Also snark: It's called creaky voice, "vocal fry" is what people call it when they want to wring their hands about kids-these-days
- skore 13y ago
  > "vocal fry" is what people call it when they want to wring their hands about kids-these-days Well maybe I do. ;-)

by skore 13y ago

aasarava 13y ago

Any reason your snark has to be obligatory? Especially since it's about a pedantic issue with the video about the service rather than the service itself? The thing is, you've actually got something interesting to say -- we should certainly consider the privacy implications, and whether this could change limits on government intrusion into your correspondence -- but you buried the lead and presented it in a negative way for no clear reason other than you were feeling like being snarky toward someone's hard work.

Domenic_S 13y ago
> buried the lead More snark: it's "buried the lede".
- michaelmior 13y ago
  I believe "lead" is also acceptable spelling.
  - Domenic_S 13y ago
    I did time at a startup for journalists so this is burned in my skull. Lede is journalism jargon, and "burying the lede" is a phrase borrowed from journalism. > Journalistic ledes emphasize grabbing the attention of the reader. In journalism, the failure to mention the most important, interesting or attention-grabbing elements of a story in the first paragraph is sometimes called "burying the lede". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead_paragraph http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead_paragraph > Bury the lead sort of works, but bury the lede is the conventional spelling of this expression. http://grammarist.com/usage/lead-lede/ http://grammarist.com/usage/lead-lede/ "Lede" makes a distinction between lead (leed) and lead (pb/led).
wwwarhawk 13y ago
Hahaha. This, ladies and gentlemen, is the most typical HN user I've ever seen. Seriously, that gave me a good laugh.
skore 13y ago
Conversely, you restate the typical inability to look beyond a minor layer of snark for the benefit of not even getting to the interesting points. And yes, I've been there myself multiple times. What I'm trying to say is - both things really aren't so relevant that we should obsess about them. They're there, we cannot help ourselves, let's get on with things.

Avshalom 13y ago

>And don't tell me it won't happen. It will always happen. Somebody other than you will have or get access to that data. Hell that's the sales pitch: give us your keys so we can steal your mail. Like I get the idea and it's solid, but christ that's a level of trust I don't have. Also snark: It's called creaky voice, "vocal fry" is what people call it when they want to wring their hands about kids-these-days

skore 13y ago
> "vocal fry" is what people call it when they want to wring their hands about kids-these-days Well maybe I do. ;-)