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The juxtaposition of this comment on an article about how bullshit levels go way down when bullshitters are financially responsible for their statements practic

The juxtaposition of this comment on an article about how bullshit levels go way down when bullshitters are financially responsible for their statements practically blows my irony meter up. Capitalism was squarely in the OWS crosshairs since Capitalism is the best way we have of keeping track of good and bad decisions. Sigh. OWS was protesting the fact that the government handed over billions of dollars to Wall Street banks while middle America got shafted. Either you don't know what capitalism is or you're just spouting talking points. Or possibly both. OWS and the Tea Party were the opposite sides of the same ideological coin. They went about it different ways but they were both concerned with fairness and ending governmental oligarchy.

gottasayit 13y ago
The OWS Manifesto completely contradicts your contention. http://www.peoplesassemblies.org/2012/05/may-12th-globalmay-statement/ http://www.peoplesassemblies.org/2012/05/may-12th-globalmay-...
- scotch_drinker 13y ago
  That manifesto completely contradicts itself mostly. I'm not sure which of my contentions (that OWS was protesting against the huge bailouts or that they are of the same ideological bent as the Tea Party) you're referring to but there are enough points in the linked manifesto to support either including : We are living in a world controlled by forces incapable of giving freedom and dignity to the world´s population (if, indeed, they ever were). A world where we are told ‘there is no alternative’ to the loss of rights achieved through the long, hard struggles of our ancestors. Yes, point 1 is clearly socialist in nature but point 2 is clearly democratic in nature. This is the inherent problem of trying to singularly define a movement that is made up grassroots organizations, each with their own agenda. But the theme behind all of them is the social and economic inequality that resulted from the bailouts. The societal themes that brought both OWS and the Tea Party to life were the same. How they went about addressing them may have been different but the underlying hopes were very similar.
acheron 13y ago
If OWS were protesting the government handing over billions of dollars, it would have been called "Occupy the Capitol Building".
- scotch_drinker 13y ago
  Depends on who you think is in charge, the government or Wall Street.

gottasayit 13y ago

The OWS Manifesto completely contradicts your contention. http://www.peoplesassemblies.org/2012/05/may-12th-globalmay-statement/ http://www.peoplesassemblies.org/2012/05/may-12th-globalmay-...

scotch_drinker 13y ago
That manifesto completely contradicts itself mostly. I'm not sure which of my contentions (that OWS was protesting against the huge bailouts or that they are of the same ideological bent as the Tea Party) you're referring to but there are enough points in the linked manifesto to support either including : We are living in a world controlled by forces incapable of giving freedom and dignity to the world´s population (if, indeed, they ever were). A world where we are told ‘there is no alternative’ to the loss of rights achieved through the long, hard struggles of our ancestors. Yes, point 1 is clearly socialist in nature but point 2 is clearly democratic in nature. This is the inherent problem of trying to singularly define a movement that is made up grassroots organizations, each with their own agenda. But the theme behind all of them is the social and economic inequality that resulted from the bailouts. The societal themes that brought both OWS and the Tea Party to life were the same. How they went about addressing them may have been different but the underlying hopes were very similar.

acheron 13y ago

If OWS were protesting the government handing over billions of dollars, it would have been called "Occupy the Capitol Building".

scotch_drinker 13y ago
Depends on who you think is in charge, the government or Wall Street.