There are two schools of programming that have diverged: low-productivity and high-productivity development. It's not always about language. I know people in th

There are two schools of programming that have diverged: low-productivity and high-productivity development. It's not always about language. I know people in the HP world that use traditionally LP languages like Java or C++ for performance reasons. But the horrid mess of a stereotypical JavaJob is the LP development world where, as you said, those horrible Big Designs are created without irony.