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> The restrictions on one's freedoms are not significantly greater than in Europe or the US. Is that really true? If I lived in singapore, I would be worried a

> The restrictions on one's freedoms are not significantly greater than in Europe or the US. Is that really true? If I lived in singapore, I would be worried about saying anything critical of the government, to avoid things like this happening to me: http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5g_-nIBIauDZSr9xDuY8K2Ja8usOw http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5g_-nIBIauDZSr9xDuY8K2Ja8... I live in the US (but not American), and I have and will say things critical of the government, and I do not fear any repercussions. I think this is fantastic. Mind you I'm not talking about extreme things that will warrant investigation from the secret service, but stuff like what the blogger mentioned in the article said. Are you saying that what's mentioned in the AFP article above doesn't happen? Or that I will indeed face repercussions for similar speech in the US, but I'm just too naive?

crdoconnor 13y ago
In Singapore I fear this much less: http://rt.com/usa/mortgage-fargo-wells-syldor-964/ http://rt.com/usa/mortgage-fargo-wells-syldor-964/ Swings and roundabouts. Both societies have their horrible points, and infringe on people's liberties in horrific ways. In the case of blogging, though, yeah, the US has it better.
- nairteashop 13y ago
  I'm not sure what wells fargo foreclosing on someone has anything to do with freedom to criticize your government, but ok.
  - crdoconnor 13y ago
    We were discussing general freedom in the thread below, not just freedom of expression. I think the freedom to keep one's home which you paid for from being stolen based upon a ridiculous technicality is a pretty important one. And it is one, where, sadly, the US is not currently doing so well.
    - jlgreco 13y ago
      Your fixation on the US whenever somebody criticizes Singapore is downright bizarre.
      - crdoconnor 13y ago
        Other than the UK (which I also compared it to) it's the one country that most people on this American website will have familiarity with. Why, who should I comparing it with instead? Ecuador? Papua new guinea?
        jlgreco 13y ago
        How about actually attempting to defend your government instead of just making absurd arguments about it being better than others. "Better than others" is a piss-poor defense. The refuge of those incapable of thinking of anything better to say of themselves.
        crdoconnor 13y ago
        I'm not interested in: * Defending this country's government. * Being a salesperson for this country like you said I should be - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5818163 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5818163 * Better at comforting you about the various ways this country is not so bad like you said I should be - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5817552 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5817552 I'm simply refuting the bullshit that it's a police state. If only it were actually that interesting here...

crdoconnor 13y ago

In Singapore I fear this much less: http://rt.com/usa/mortgage-fargo-wells-syldor-964/ http://rt.com/usa/mortgage-fargo-wells-syldor-964/ Swings and roundabouts. Both societies have their horrible points, and infringe on people's liberties in horrific ways. In the case of blogging, though, yeah, the US has it better.

nairteashop 13y ago
I'm not sure what wells fargo foreclosing on someone has anything to do with freedom to criticize your government, but ok.
- crdoconnor 13y ago
  We were discussing general freedom in the thread below, not just freedom of expression. I think the freedom to keep one's home which you paid for from being stolen based upon a ridiculous technicality is a pretty important one. And it is one, where, sadly, the US is not currently doing so well.
  - jlgreco 13y ago
    Your fixation on the US whenever somebody criticizes Singapore is downright bizarre.
    - crdoconnor 13y ago
      Other than the UK (which I also compared it to) it's the one country that most people on this American website will have familiarity with. Why, who should I comparing it with instead? Ecuador? Papua new guinea?
      - jlgreco 13y ago
        How about actually attempting to defend your government instead of just making absurd arguments about it being better than others. "Better than others" is a piss-poor defense. The refuge of those incapable of thinking of anything better to say of themselves.
        crdoconnor 13y ago
        I'm not interested in: * Defending this country's government. * Being a salesperson for this country like you said I should be - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5818163 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5818163 * Better at comforting you about the various ways this country is not so bad like you said I should be - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5817552 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5817552 I'm simply refuting the bullshit that it's a police state. If only it were actually that interesting here...