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"Frankly I'd hesitate in working for any company backed by the same VCs that let this happen." I see some pretty big names in the list of Zynga investors. Name

"Frankly I'd hesitate in working for any company backed by the same VCs that let this happen." I see some pretty big names in the list of Zynga investors. Namely Union Square Ventures, Andreessen Horowitz, and Kleiner Perkins Caufield Byers. The set of startups these VCs have invested in will cover a huge portion of the "good" startups to work for. I don't know if refusing to work for a company backed by one of them is a viable option.

scotth 13y ago
> I don't know if refusing to work for a company backed by one of them is a viable option. There is a bigger world out there than you think.
wslh 13y ago
Google invested on Zynga, and Cletus work for Google. Sorry for being cynic, it's not my style.
- guard-of-terra 13y ago
  Why do you assume Google is so good? Or so unavoidable? Recently Google bought Quickoffice and booted two offices of android devs + QA in Ukraine without even paying them 2-month equivalent of salary for the inconvenience. Not sure if they are going to sue. You can argue it was not "The Google" but some of their proxies, but it doesn't matter: as a company they're cool with that, saving some dimes by ripping out employees they aren't going to use, when they can get away with that.
  - wslh 13y ago
    See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5817073 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5817073
    - guard-of-terra 13y ago
      So what? I didn't doubt Google invested; I just claim it's not as important because Google isn't actually good when it comes to treating 3rd party employees.
      - wslh 13y ago
        You didn't read the whole thread. The thread was initiated by someone who works at Google, and says ""Frankly I'd hesitate in working for any company backed by the same VCs that let this happen.".
        guard-of-terra 13y ago
        It wasn't obvious from the context that he works for Google. And it seems he actually works for Twilio: https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=stanleydrew https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=stanleydrew But I would say "core Google" is safe, it's just that Google investements/acquirement doesn't really mean any safety per se.
        wslh 13y ago
        Again you are not reading what I say. The user is https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=cletus https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=cletus
beachstartup 13y ago
> I don't know if refusing to work for a company backed by one of them is a viable option. people can get rich selling socks. you don't need to work for these companies.
dotBen 13y ago
I'm the last person to defend Zynga and it's practices but I agree this needs caution. If the boot is on the other foot, and VC's are expected to own such a degree of responsibility to maintain their reputation, then as a founder suddenly I'm going to be dictated by my investors as to how to run lower level aspects of my business that would not normally need board (thus investor) approval. If we want investors to remain hands-off outside of board decisions then you can't expect them to take responsibility for aspects they have no control over.

scotth 13y ago

> I don't know if refusing to work for a company backed by one of them is a viable option. There is a bigger world out there than you think.

wslh 13y ago

Google invested on Zynga, and Cletus work for Google. Sorry for being cynic, it's not my style.

guard-of-terra 13y ago
Why do you assume Google is so good? Or so unavoidable? Recently Google bought Quickoffice and booted two offices of android devs + QA in Ukraine without even paying them 2-month equivalent of salary for the inconvenience. Not sure if they are going to sue. You can argue it was not "The Google" but some of their proxies, but it doesn't matter: as a company they're cool with that, saving some dimes by ripping out employees they aren't going to use, when they can get away with that.
- wslh 13y ago
  See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5817073 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5817073
  - guard-of-terra 13y ago
    So what? I didn't doubt Google invested; I just claim it's not as important because Google isn't actually good when it comes to treating 3rd party employees.
    - wslh 13y ago
      You didn't read the whole thread. The thread was initiated by someone who works at Google, and says ""Frankly I'd hesitate in working for any company backed by the same VCs that let this happen.".
      - guard-of-terra 13y ago
        It wasn't obvious from the context that he works for Google. And it seems he actually works for Twilio: https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=stanleydrew https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=stanleydrew But I would say "core Google" is safe, it's just that Google investements/acquirement doesn't really mean any safety per se.
        wslh 13y ago
        Again you are not reading what I say. The user is https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=cletus https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=cletus

beachstartup 13y ago

> I don't know if refusing to work for a company backed by one of them is a viable option. people can get rich selling socks. you don't need to work for these companies.

dotBen 13y ago

I'm the last person to defend Zynga and it's practices but I agree this needs caution. If the boot is on the other foot, and VC's are expected to own such a degree of responsibility to maintain their reputation, then as a founder suddenly I'm going to be dictated by my investors as to how to run lower level aspects of my business that would not normally need board (thus investor) approval. If we want investors to remain hands-off outside of board decisions then you can't expect them to take responsibility for aspects they have no control over.