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I flipped through the presentation and thought the inclusion of the images was immature at best...but you know what? -- big f'ing deal! Just because one guy us

by fiaz 17y ago

I flipped through the presentation and thought the inclusion of the images was immature at best...but you know what? -- big f'ing deal! Just because one guy uses these images as a form of self expression doesn't cast a shadow on the community itself as being culturally a "ghetto". EDIT: Definitely off-topic, but does anybody have any experience with CouchDB/Rails? If so, what are the pros/cons...

batasrki 17y ago
No, it doesn't. The Rails community does tend to exaggerate a bit. I do think that good points have been raised about the issue of sexism in the Rails community and IT industry in general. That's something that people have been missing. It's not just about this presentation. The only purpose this presentation serves is to illuminate that larger issue, and that's something that the whole industry needs to take a long, hard look at.
- fiaz 17y ago
  Excellent point, perhaps the larger issue might be that porn is more prevalent in today's day and age: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/nov/08/gender.weekend7 http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/nov/08/gender.weekend7 http://www.vancouversun.com/entertainment/Porn+becomes+cultural+wallpaper/1269150/story.html http://www.vancouversun.com/entertainment/Porn+becomes+cultu... What made me roll my eyes while flipping through the presentation was the "in your face" attitude of inserting the images in the presentation to make a point. To me, the imagery exuded a certain lack of self confidence, but then again - big f'ing deal...it's not how I would get my point across. I see the insertion of the images as being a poor design choice and something that is not reflective of the larger community as a whole.
  - ericb 17y ago
    It becomes reflective on the community only over time if it is repeated and no one objects.
    - fiaz 17y ago
      I disagree. It becomes reflective on the community if people focus on the small minority of people doing this. This is the same type of thing other groups around the world face where a small group gains a lot of attention and judgments are passed on the larger group as a whole.
andrewvc 17y ago
I tried it out, using a few of the couch DB interfaces a couple months ago. I'd say it's not ready for prime time yet except in cases where couchdb's model makes so much more sense for your data you're willing to go through a lot more pain to use it. In most cases where an RDBMS makes less sense it's usually the case that all the RDBMS oriented sugar rails has acquired still makes it easier to work with an RDBMS.

by fiaz 17y ago

batasrki 17y ago

No, it doesn't. The Rails community does tend to exaggerate a bit. I do think that good points have been raised about the issue of sexism in the Rails community and IT industry in general. That's something that people have been missing. It's not just about this presentation. The only purpose this presentation serves is to illuminate that larger issue, and that's something that the whole industry needs to take a long, hard look at.

fiaz 17y ago
Excellent point, perhaps the larger issue might be that porn is more prevalent in today's day and age: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/nov/08/gender.weekend7 http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/nov/08/gender.weekend7 http://www.vancouversun.com/entertainment/Porn+becomes+cultural+wallpaper/1269150/story.html http://www.vancouversun.com/entertainment/Porn+becomes+cultu... What made me roll my eyes while flipping through the presentation was the "in your face" attitude of inserting the images in the presentation to make a point. To me, the imagery exuded a certain lack of self confidence, but then again - big f'ing deal...it's not how I would get my point across. I see the insertion of the images as being a poor design choice and something that is not reflective of the larger community as a whole.
- ericb 17y ago
  It becomes reflective on the community only over time if it is repeated and no one objects.
  - fiaz 17y ago
    I disagree. It becomes reflective on the community if people focus on the small minority of people doing this. This is the same type of thing other groups around the world face where a small group gains a lot of attention and judgments are passed on the larger group as a whole.

andrewvc 17y ago

I tried it out, using a few of the couch DB interfaces a couple months ago. I'd say it's not ready for prime time yet except in cases where couchdb's model makes so much more sense for your data you're willing to go through a lot more pain to use it. In most cases where an RDBMS makes less sense it's usually the case that all the RDBMS oriented sugar rails has acquired still makes it easier to work with an RDBMS.