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This is apparently one of those things: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=580981 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=580981

by rms 18y ago

Raphael 18y ago
Did he say he was going to take LSD to code better?
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wheels 18y ago
There's a long list of things I support your right to say ... somewhere else.
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SwellJoe 18y ago
I just don't think the post is relevant to hacker news. Every once in a while someone will post something about their "hacking" with drugs, and it's generally just dull, self-indulgent, rambling. palish is a fine HN contributor, but I'm not interested in his acid trip. Nor am I interested in salvia, marijuana, etc. Another long-time, and usually excellent, HN contributor (whose name escapes me) has frequently hocked some herbal brain boosting drug that he imports and sells, and I find those posts dull, too. It's not that you can't say it. It's that you should say it some place where it will be appreciated. I see that it got a pretty good amount of upvotes before being deaded by an editor or pg, so I may even be in the minority (you and palish have been around about as along as I have, so it's not an "oldfag vs newfag" question), but I definitely don't care whether palish has a conversation with God tonight while under the influence of LSD. If I wanted drug experience discussions I would go to erowid: http://www.erowid.org/experiences/ http://www.erowid.org/experiences/ And, if I wanted repeats of pg essays on HN...well, I would never want repeats of pg essays on HN.
radu_floricica 18y ago
No, this was probably the matter of non-hacker news. But it would be a better behavior from the site not to delete the content of the submission, and just drop it from the front page.
- SwellJoe 18y ago
  Obviously the content has not been deleted, as rms was able to link to it. As far as I know nothing is ever deleted here, it just gets deaded (which is a flag, and if you want to see dead articles, you can...just set showdead to yes in your profile).
tvon 18y ago
(I offer some level of apologies in advance, but this whole thing has touched a chord with me and any attempts to express myself eloquently seem to come up short, so I'm going to just let it out... some foul language may follow... though I'll probably delete this in an hour or so to stem the karma damage) I really don't want to hear about that crap. Not because i find it taboo, or offensive, or because it is somehow too extreme for my fragile view on the world, but because this kind of crap is mundane, uninspiring, unoriginal and juvenile. FFS, the highest voted comment was "draw some pictures", you have to be kidding me, how lame and predictable can a thread like that get? This is HACKER NEWS, maybe the discussion could revolve around that a bit, ya think? How about you try to write some fucking coherent and maintainable Perl? Maybe you can do that on acid... And did you read the list of questions he was asking? "When I see a shape shift or melt, then reach out and touch it, will I feel the shape that I see, or feel its true form?" Are you fucking kidding me, really? Is there a cute chick with a Velvet Underground t-shirt standing around here somewhere that I'm not seeing? You want to drop acid? Great, go for it, you have my blessings, but don't post to HN about it pretending you want to take some lame fucking pseudo-scientific approach to it. This is Hacker News, I don't want to come here and feel like a fly on a wall at an art school scenester coffee shop full of Volvo driving trustafarians. I sure as hell don't want to read an entire thread about someone discovering hallucinogenic drugs for the first time. That discussion has it's place, that place is not here. Also, just because that story was flagged or moderated or whatever, does not mean that you are some how being persecuted for your "counter-culture" beliefs. All too often someone says something stupid on HN (more often Reddit, but it seems to be happening more here) and they're moderated into oblivion, so they edit their comment claiming that their statement was just too mind blowing for the sheeple to accept, so it unjustly modded into oblivion. The reality is that the sheeple are quite open minded, they just think the comment sucked, was stupid, and deserved being moderated into oblivion.
- palish 18y ago
  So would you say all of that to my face? That was really harsh. I am a person, you know. I get happy and sad and have stupid ideas, just like everyone else. I was trying to be helpful. I honestly thought it would be. I'm sorry for wasting a few minutes of people's time; trying to provoke an interesting discussion; not meeting your high standards of "worthy" content, and apparently churning out crap. I'm not sure what else to say. But I don't identify with Hacker News anymore, I don't think.

This is apparently one of those things: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=580981 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=580981

by rms 18y ago

This is apparently one of those things: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=580981 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=580981

Raphael 18y ago

Did he say he was going to take LSD to code better?

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wheels 18y ago

There's a long list of things I support your right to say ... somewhere else.

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SwellJoe 18y ago

I just don't think the post is relevant to hacker news. Every once in a while someone will post something about their "hacking" with drugs, and it's generally just dull, self-indulgent, rambling. palish is a fine HN contributor, but I'm not interested in his acid trip. Nor am I interested in salvia, marijuana, etc. Another long-time, and usually excellent, HN contributor (whose name escapes me) has frequently hocked some herbal brain boosting drug that he imports and sells, and I find those posts dull, too. It's not that you can't say it. It's that you should say it some place where it will be appreciated. I see that it got a pretty good amount of upvotes before being deaded by an editor or pg, so I may even be in the minority (you and palish have been around about as along as I have, so it's not an "oldfag vs newfag" question), but I definitely don't care whether palish has a conversation with God tonight while under the influence of LSD. If I wanted drug experience discussions I would go to erowid: http://www.erowid.org/experiences/ http://www.erowid.org/experiences/ And, if I wanted repeats of pg essays on HN...well, I would never want repeats of pg essays on HN.

radu_floricica 18y ago

No, this was probably the matter of non-hacker news. But it would be a better behavior from the site not to delete the content of the submission, and just drop it from the front page.

SwellJoe 18y ago
Obviously the content has not been deleted, as rms was able to link to it. As far as I know nothing is ever deleted here, it just gets deaded (which is a flag, and if you want to see dead articles, you can...just set showdead to yes in your profile).

tvon 18y ago

(I offer some level of apologies in advance, but this whole thing has touched a chord with me and any attempts to express myself eloquently seem to come up short, so I'm going to just let it out... some foul language may follow... though I'll probably delete this in an hour or so to stem the karma damage) I really don't want to hear about that crap. Not because i find it taboo, or offensive, or because it is somehow too extreme for my fragile view on the world, but because this kind of crap is mundane, uninspiring, unoriginal and juvenile. FFS, the highest voted comment was "draw some pictures", you have to be kidding me, how lame and predictable can a thread like that get? This is HACKER NEWS, maybe the discussion could revolve around that a bit, ya think? How about you try to write some fucking coherent and maintainable Perl? Maybe you can do that on acid... And did you read the list of questions he was asking? "When I see a shape shift or melt, then reach out and touch it, will I feel the shape that I see, or feel its true form?" Are you fucking kidding me, really? Is there a cute chick with a Velvet Underground t-shirt standing around here somewhere that I'm not seeing? You want to drop acid? Great, go for it, you have my blessings, but don't post to HN about it pretending you want to take some lame fucking pseudo-scientific approach to it. This is Hacker News, I don't want to come here and feel like a fly on a wall at an art school scenester coffee shop full of Volvo driving trustafarians. I sure as hell don't want to read an entire thread about someone discovering hallucinogenic drugs for the first time. That discussion has it's place, that place is not here. Also, just because that story was flagged or moderated or whatever, does not mean that you are some how being persecuted for your "counter-culture" beliefs. All too often someone says something stupid on HN (more often Reddit, but it seems to be happening more here) and they're moderated into oblivion, so they edit their comment claiming that their statement was just too mind blowing for the sheeple to accept, so it unjustly modded into oblivion. The reality is that the sheeple are quite open minded, they just think the comment sucked, was stupid, and deserved being moderated into oblivion.

palish 18y ago
So would you say all of that to my face? That was really harsh. I am a person, you know. I get happy and sad and have stupid ideas, just like everyone else. I was trying to be helpful. I honestly thought it would be. I'm sorry for wasting a few minutes of people's time; trying to provoke an interesting discussion; not meeting your high standards of "worthy" content, and apparently churning out crap. I'm not sure what else to say. But I don't identify with Hacker News anymore, I don't think.