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Do you use iTunes? or Paypal?

• itafroma 13y ago
  > Do you use iTunes? or Paypal? iTunes and Paypal are routinely cited (for good reason) as examples of services with too-long terms of service, but funnily enough, Media Temple's ToS puts them to shame: * iTunes's ToS[1] is a little over 14,000 words (15 pages if I print it out) * Paypal's user agreement[2] is a little over 23,000 words (31 pages if I print it out) * Media Temple's ToS is over 25,000 words and 44 pages if I print it out [1]: http://www.apple.com/legal/internet-services/itunes/us/terms.html http://www.apple.com/legal/internet-services/itunes/us/terms... [2]: https://cms.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/?cmd=_render-content&content_ID=ua/UserAgreement_full&locale.x=en_US https://cms.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/?cmd=_render-content&c...
• nknighthb 13y ago
  The iTunes terms and conditions are substantially shorter, but you're right that the Paypal agreement is of similar length, and both are ridiculous. However, I've never signed either one, and if they were posted here under the heading "keeping it real" and "We tried to keep things as simple as possible", I would say the exact same thing. There is no clickwrap-style agreement -- none -- that will ever approach the importance of many documents I have physically signed in my life, and not a single one of those documents even begins to approach this length.